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Yeah: I was really lucky that I was in Girl Scouts while Margaret McKinney was still an active volunteer educator. My troop went on a hike with her when I was perhaps nine, and she and I got in a long conversation about various native members of the Lilaceae.

Well, once again I can say that I just keep learning the most interesting things on BYC!
I had to look up camas and Lilaceae which led me to look up wild onions, too. I wanted to know the difference because when I was a little kid my brother and I used to dig up and EAT what HE called Indian Onions. I'm surprised we didn't poison ourselves, but little sisters like me always trusted our big brothers!
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Although we didn't have fields of camas where I grew up, we did have a lot of shooting stars and yellow bells. They were SO pretty. But like so many other wild flowers they're really hard to find now. I nearly scared my husband to death one day when I shouted "Stop The Car"! I'd spotted a big patch of shooting stars and just had to go look. It was a little slice of heaven even if I only got to enjoy it for a few minutes!

We went to visit my daughter's friend in White Sulphur Springs after her first year at UM Missoula, and the fields below their ranch house were carpeted in shooting stars- they called them rooster heads, my grandmother cranesbills, and the latin is genus Dodecatheon. Another thing I used to see everywhere, now gone for no greater cause than tidiness.

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Well, once again I can say that I just keep learning the most interesting things on BYC!
I had to look up camas and Lilaceae which led me to look up wild onions, too. I wanted to know the difference because when I was a little kid my brother and I used to dig up and EAT what HE called Indian Onions. I'm surprised we didn't poison ourselves, but little sisters like me always trusted our big brothers!
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Although we didn't have fields of camas where I grew up, we did have a lot of shooting stars and yellow bells. They were SO pretty. But like so many other wild flowers they're really hard to find now. I nearly scared my husband to death one day when I shouted "Stop The Car"! I'd spotted a big patch of shooting stars and just had to go look. It was a little slice of heaven even if I only got to enjoy it for a few minutes!

We went to visit my daughter's friend in White Sulphur Springs after her first year at UM Missoula, and the fields below their ranch house were carpeted in shooting stars- they called them rooster heads, my grandmother cranesbills, and the latin is genus Dodecatheon. Another thing I used to see everywhere, now gone for no greater cause than tidiness.

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you can still find shooting stars and wild strawberries in the woodsy part of the Evergreen gun range, west of Littlerock ... some clearing was done to put a couple of additional shooting stations in, but the wild flowers are flourishing there on the mounds surround the big trees .. or at least they were the last time I was out there

interesting note this morning; I was putting the black oil sunflower feeder in the run when several of the pullets decided to make a break for it, out the sliding access to the run -- I hadn't gotten it quite closed enough

I tried to herd them back in, since Roxy-dog was bounding down the steps from the deck ... but they ALL decided to fly out instead

I yelled at Roxy "NO CHICKENS !" and she stopped, pointed, and whined but did not chase nor approach them, even when they scurried away from my herding arms

and she stayed about 15 feet from them, very interested but also obedient, while I finally got them moving back into the run

all this took about ten minutes

she got a great bit GOOD DOG ! and a couple of dog cookies when I urged her back into the house
 
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We went to visit my daughter's friend in White Sulphur Springs after her first year at UM Missoula, and the fields below their ranch house were carpeted in shooting stars- they called them rooster heads, my grandmother cranesbills, and the latin is genus Dodecatheon. Another thing I used to see everywhere, now gone for no greater cause than tidiness.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/Julia_here/100_0579.jpg

you can still find shooting stars and wild strawberries in the woodsy part of the Evergreen gun range, west of Littlerock ... some clearing was done to put a couple of additional shooting stations in, but the wild flowers are flourishing there on the mounds surround the big trees .. or at least they were the last time I was out there

interesting note this morning; I was putting the black oil sunflower feeder in the run when several of the pullets decided to make a break for it, out the sliding access to the run -- I hadn't gotten it quite closed enough

I tried to herd them back in, since Roxy-dog was bounding down the steps from the deck ... but they ALL decided to fly out instead

I yelled at Roxy "NO CHICKENS !" and she stopped, pointed, and whined but did not chase nor approach them, even when they scurried away from my herding arms

and she stayed about 15 feet from them, very interested but also obedient, while I finally got them moving back into the run

all this took about ten minutes

she got a great bit GOOD DOG ! and a couple of dog cookies when I urged her back into the house

Oh, that's GREAT! The thing that's most often wrong with GSPs is they do not have an off switch!

(There's a lot of Dodecatheon hendersonii at the Mounds, of course, and some under the oak trees on my BIL's place; I don't have any here because they're one of the plants that pigs root out first, and one of the pre-1890 owners of this place ran pigs.)
 
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We went to visit my daughter's friend in White Sulphur Springs after her first year at UM Missoula, and the fields below their ranch house were carpeted in shooting stars- they called them rooster heads, my grandmother cranesbills, and the latin is genus Dodecatheon. Another thing I used to see everywhere, now gone for no greater cause than tidiness.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/Julia_here/100_0579.jpg

you can still find shooting stars and wild strawberries in the woodsy part of the Evergreen gun range, west of Littlerock ... some clearing was done to put a couple of additional shooting stations in, but the wild flowers are flourishing there on the mounds surround the big trees .. or at least they were the last time I was out there

interesting note this morning; I was putting the black oil sunflower feeder in the run when several of the pullets decided to make a break for it, out the sliding access to the run -- I hadn't gotten it quite closed enough

I tried to herd them back in, since Roxy-dog was bounding down the steps from the deck ... but they ALL decided to fly out instead

I yelled at Roxy "NO CHICKENS !" and she stopped, pointed, and whined but did not chase nor approach them, even when they scurried away from my herding arms

and she stayed about 15 feet from them, very interested but also obedient, while I finally got them moving back into the run

all this took about ten minutes

she got a great bit GOOD DOG ! and a couple of dog cookies when I urged her back into the house

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So my question is--and forgive me if it sounds wrong....why are you still hand-feeding them if it's happened several times?
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I'm 2 days late and a few dollars short on this topic, but I'm just getting caught up on this thread. Having worked with A LOT of dogs in my career, I just can't keep my mouth shut on this one. I'm sorry about your hand Ilia, and I hope you don't suffer any long term damage from the bite, but this was not the dog's fault, and now it is being turned into someone else's problem. Hopefully whoever ends up with the dogs will train them to have a little respect.
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I just popped in and I am saying Hiddy Hi Oh! to all. I have been reading, and staying out trouble these days. I had to get rid of a Black Copper Marans roo last Saturday. And now I realize that I may have at least 2 more roos. I think that there is a Light Sussex and a Wheaten Ameraucanas. I got the WA from Jen in Spokane. I wish that I could keep a roo here.
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But I am stuck in suburbia, and I am pushing more limits than I should.
 
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I obviously don't know the dogs, I was just going off what the OP said about them (i.e. that they needed to find a new home because of temperament issues).

Just speaking in general terms, I don't think any animal that doesn't have a good temperament should be bred, regardless of how rare or special their bloodlines are. Just my opinion.

I hope everything works out with the dogs. They are young and a lot can change by the time they're fully mature.

Exactly. No matter how great they look, temperament has to come first, or at least near the top of the list, in big muscle-bound dogs like that. That's what happened to so many of these breeds. People think they should breed their dogs just because they can, and they think they'll make a quick buck, and it does absolutely no favors for the breed. Honestly, I have to laugh when people come into our emergency clinic for a $2000 c-section and end up with one or two puppies when they bred their dogs to "make money" to begin with. Breeding animals is rarely, if ever, a money maker.
 
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Didn't notice this earlier.


We still do it because we are in fact training them NOT to bite the hand. I'm not blaming the dog for the injury though, it happened and that was that. We're not re-homing the dog because of it.
 
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No one's visiting me anytime soon that I know of. . . And the choices haven't been made yet. I've got two rumpless definite girls, 2 more who I can't yet tell if they are girls or not. The rest are keepers so far.

And of course more due to hatch out soon.
 
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