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The trick to renting what you need is to stay away from large apartment complexes, and other commercial style housing. They have will have to follow the rules, and cannot make exceptions even if they want to. You will need to be looking for a private home owner that is renting only one or two rentals at the most. It is people like that, that will be willing to take a chance on you. I think it comes down to gut feelings. I have lived in several wonderful places, because of this. DH and I have also had the need to rent out the home we have owned for 3 years out of the 19 years that we have owned the house. I know for myself that I wasn't willing to figure out how to pull someone’s credit history, or make it harder to find the 'right person". The fact is that bad things can happen to anyone, and bankruptcy is not always a case of living the high life without wanting to pay for it. There are many reasons.

The thing is that for the next 7 years you are a better financial risk than you were before you had any money troubles. You cannot, not pay your bills, and get away with it for that period of time. Car dealers will want to sell you a car in the worst way too. I do know that there is life and credit after bankruptcy. It is legal to go bankrupt, and it was even allowed in bible times. I don't know of anyone that would want to put their selves in that position on purpose, but I know that it is not sinful, or a sign of a person’s character. I also feel that the lenders have a very large share in the responsibility, of the financial mess that this country is in. I find that the people that will cast the stones, are often most self righteous, and that they often are soothing themselves with thoughts that it can't happen to them. I think that they are clueless of what can all still happen, even when you think that you own everything you have.

As for the housing watch the local paper (subscribe if necessary) in the area you are looking at(including online), and watch for the new ads. Also have your sister and anyone else here on BYC that is willing to help, watch for houses with signs saying for rent. I have always been able to find a house to rent that would allow me to have my pets when I needed it. It is a matter of looking hard enough, and negotiating with an owner/landlord. Also share what you need with people, and yet don't over share. The last house I rented was only listed for a single day in the newspaper. The great houses and deals go fast, and don't forget Craigslist too.

It might be very helpful to get a map of Washington State, and know for certain where you want to look for housing. The State has a number of very different climates, and areas that are more difficult to travel to and from. Sooner or later most of us have a need for services in the larger metro areas, so finding a home that is way out in the boonies can at times become time consuming and expensive to travel to and from. Also work can be difficult to get in areas that are off the beaten track.
 
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CR this is mine from this year...
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Very similar to CL's.... ok, exactly like hers lol!
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I have last years somewhere too, I just can't seem to find it in any of my photo albums... hmm
 
Also for TC if you have lived in Alaska and Hawaii, Western Washington will be a walk in the park. The climate here is very moderate for the most part, though I am certain that for me that I would perfer the warmth of Hawaii.
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But i think that the Vog in the Islands is rather nasty.
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Let's just say the vog is like smelling sulfar and it just about kills me with allergies when things blow our way. I will also say the grass is greener on the other side for only so long. We are also talking humidity at times where all you are is soaked all day and go to bed to very damp sheets, yuck.

We live in the poorest community in Hawaii and it is almost like a third world country at times. If you get really sick they medivac you to honolulu to the tune of 27k and it does not take much of anything to be to sick for them to care for you at our hospital. The abuse of wives and family members is horribly high. And the prejudice against Haole's (white people) is an ever constant undercurrent.

Things looked beautiful and promising when we moved here after coming for a vacation. Due to our business being a tourist business, it failed when the tourist did not come anymore and we had sank all of our savings plus tons of credit into it trying to save it.

We have a nice home, but since all of this has happened I am barely able to live in it until it is time for us to vacate it, I know longer feel at home here.

We have always owned a home, so I am a bit lost and scared to death about being homeless, and we have plenty of money to pay for a sizable rent, just need to find the right place, which makes it difficult when it takes about six hours to get to Seattle from here.

I just need a place to lay low and re-coup for now so we can move on with our lives. I have been looking on craigslist and some things look promising.

I do not feel shame in having to go the route we did, we tried everything in our power to overcome this situation and still lost. You just can't do more than that, or even worse things happen.

Thanks for the understanding and help from all of you who have responded.
 
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welcome to the thread and WA.
depending on how close you want to love to your sister I think you might find better prices towards the west coast area rather then around the sound. It seems to me that the closer you are to the city of Seattle the more the rent cost is.

good luck in finding the place that works for you!



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Okay I have to say that I get a bit cranky about such generalizations. The problem that people outside of Western Washington don't seem to understand is that for us when it snows here it rarely is very cold at the time. So as the snow falls and starts to accumulate it is often melting the first part of the layer of snow. That leads to the formation of ice. If you put a lot of hills and ice together, I don't care where you live or who is driving there are going to be problems.

In most of the country where there is annual snow fall, the temperatures are often very cold and will stay that way. The ice is often thawed on the roadways in those areas by using sand and salt on the roads during the winter months. That prevents most of the ice from forming. Also in most of the country the humidity level will be relatively low when snow is on the ground. This will leave the snow rather dry and sticky. Whereas here Western Washington we have a very high humidity level during times of snow fall because of all the large areas of water that surrounds the area. The snow here is very rarely dry, and is almost always icy.

I know that most of the problem with driving in the area is because of people that try to drive like they are from the Midwest or Eastern Washington. I am going to say that the native drivers are very respectful of the ice that we are driving on. I can say for myself that I do not have a lot of problems with driving under snowy conditions. I will say that I am usually smart enough to stay home, and avoid it and the drivers that don't treat the snow and ice with respect. I don't care how good of a driver a person is, if they are driving on ice and hills they will have problems sooner or later.


This past November was a clear case of the worst case scenario for snow in the Seattle area. When we start getting accumulating snow fall during the afternoon (which will always have an icy under layer), the area then will have an evening commuter nightmare. Because then everyone has gone to work in the usual manner while expecting to go home in the usual manner. As the snow falls and ice forms, bus travel becomes very quickly and nearly impossible in areas, and we also have articulated buses that should not be used under the weather conditions. But is seems that it is very hard to get the buses off the streets before there is a problem. So we almost always end up with people stranded and struggling to get home. Traffic in Western Washington is never really great, but snow and ice is often a major problem when combined.

I still keep hearing people that don't believe in weather forecasts. I think that a lot of us got accustom to not believing in snow forecast when we were younger. What I think is now happening is that most people don't understand that the technology of weather forecasting has greatly improved in the last 10 to 20 years. I have noticed that the forecasts are incredibly accurate now, and that it is foolish to ignore the warnings. i know that in the past it was nearly impossible to forecast snow accurately. But in the past couple of years, I have noticed a trend that the weather forecasters are rarely wrong anymore. Even the elevation forecast for snow has become more accurate. The weather people will say it is an inch of snow, but it usually more like 3/4 of an inch of snow over 1/4 of sheet ice. That makes for wonderful sledding on the hills here.

So I guess that is my rant about driving in snow, and yes I can drive in snow if I need to.
 
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Okay I have to say that I get a bit cranky about such generalizations. The problem that people outside of Western Washington don't seem to understand is that for us when it snows here it rarely is very cold at the time. So as the snow falls and starts to accumulate it is often melting the first part of the layer of snow. That leads to the formation of ice. If you put a lot of hills and ice together, I don't care where you live or who is driving there are going to be problems.

In most of the country where there is annual snow fall, the temperatures are often very cold and will stay that way. The ice is often thawed on the roadways in those areas by using sand and salt on the roads during the winter months. That prevents most of the ice from forming. Also in most of the country the humidity level will be relatively low when snow is on the ground. This will leave the snow rather dry and sticky. Whereas here Western Washington we have a very high humidity level during times of snow fall because of all the large areas of water that surrounds the area. The snow here is very rarely dry, and is almost always icy.

I know that most of the problem with driving in the area is because of people that try to drive like they are from the Midwest or Eastern Washington. I am going to say that the native drivers are very respectful of the ice that we are driving on. I can say for myself that I do not have a lot of problems with driving under snowy conditions. I will say that I am usually smart enough to stay home, and avoid it and the drivers that don't treat the snow and ice with respect. I don't care how good of a driver a person is, if they are driving on ice and hills they will have problems sooner or later.


This past November was a clear case of the worst case scenario for snow in the Seattle area. When we start getting accumulating snow fall during the afternoon (which will always have an icy under layer), the area then will have an evening commuter nightmare. Because then everyone has gone to work in the usual manner while expecting to go home in the usual manner. As the snow falls and ice forms, bus travel becomes very quickly and nearly impossible in areas, and we also have articulated buses that should not be used under the weather conditions. But is seems that it is very hard to get the buses off the streets before there is a problem. So we almost always end up with people stranded and struggling to get home. Traffic in Western Washington is never really great, but snow and ice is often a major problem when combined.

I still keep hearing people that don't believe in weather forecasts. I think that a lot of us got accustom to not believing in snow forecast when we were younger. What I think is now happening is that most people don't understand that the technology of weather forecasting has greatly improved in the last 10 to 20 years. I have noticed that the forecasts are incredibly accurate now, and that it is foolish to ignore the warnings. i know that in the past it was nearly impossible to forecast snow accurately. But in the past couple of years, I have noticed a trend that the weather forecasters are rarely wrong anymore. Even the elevation forecast for snow has become more accurate. The weather people will say it is an inch of snow, but it usually more like 3/4 of an inch of snow over 1/4 of sheet ice. That makes for wonderful sledding on the hills here.

So I guess that is my rant about driving in snow, and yes I can drive in snow if I need to.

I agree with you! so x2 from me! *and I don't even drive!
 
Killed my first goose today.

We had only two Sebastopols left, and really, I was getting tired of them and tired of waiting, plus our dogs would like more food, so. . . I culled the biggest one. First, I found out it was female. Second, it was kind of educational. I feel really stupid for saying it, but I was just a tad surprised that they're a poultry with all dark meat. And their body cavities, wow. Spacious. Third, it had a lung issue. When I finally got to its lungs, the right lung was covered in a blackened, almost purple tinted disgusting sort of growth. Anyone know what it was? The goose was fine when she was alive, but this black stuff looked bad. . . Sorry I don't have photos though.

So, I only have one Sebastopol left now, and s/he is going tomorrow. I'm guessing now that it is a girl. This one I'm going to try out and eat myself though. I've never had goose before, and LOVED the duck we had a couple years ago.

Seems kind of like a waste though. . . A Sebastopol female should go to a good home. . .
 
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