What a huge difference between the two now! (SLW & GLW)

[easttxchick]

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Diplomacy, much?
I think both of your birds are really pretty and as long as you do, that's all that really matters, right(especially now that they've started laying for you)?
My SLW is a little bit smaller than my GLW(they are the same age) and I even find their temperment to be different as well.

I have an SLW with backward lacing(which I have no intention of breeding) and since I don't plan on putting her on display in the Silver Laced Wyandotte Museum de Perfection, I think I'll continue to enjoy having her in my flock and selling those eggs she gives me everyday.

 

[M To The Maxx]

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Like Speckledhen said, Wyandottes CAN get single combs if they are hatchery stock. If she is from a hatchery then she KNOWS what she got. She just has bad lacing. So what? I think she is a beautiful WYANDOTTE hen!

 

[speckledhen]

David, unfortunately, hatcheries are putting out really bad examples of the Wyandotte breed. She is a Wyandotte, though poor quality from head to tail, if you're consulting the standard and judging her against it. I've had five SLWs and one GLW from the same hatchery and only two had great type and lacing. I sold two of those as young layers and the rest all died from internal laying issues.

If you're not breeding them, doesn't much matter that her body it too long, her comb is wrong, her lacing is not good, etc, etc. There's more than one valid reason to raise chickens and she'll lay as well as any other Wyandotte and be a great backyard flock addition.

 

[newchickmom09]

Glad everyone thinks she is pretty even though she doesn't fit the standard.

I totaly understand that she doesn't fit but I think that she is just an example of pet quality not show quality. She is very sweat and has started to lay (pretty sure at least) so what more could I ask for from my back yard flock.

And no I won't be breeding my hens, can't have roos here, so I will just enjoy my silly girl.

I just think it is crazy how different the two of them turned out. Both have very different personalities but are nice birds.

easttxchick~ I would love to see your hen!

 

[TimG]

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Diplomacy, much?
I think both of your birds are really pretty and as long as you do, that's all that really matters, right(especially now that they've started laying for you)?
My SLW is a little bit smaller than my GLW(they are the same age) and I even find their temperment to be different as well.

I have an SLW with backward lacing(which I have no intention of breeding) and since I don't plan on putting her on display in the Silver Laced Wyandotte Museum de Perfection, I think I'll continue to enjoy having her in my flock and selling those eggs she gives me everyday.

David's response was a bit terse, but when pictures of a breed are presented in "breeds, genetics & showing" pointing out the faults seems an appropriate response. I often think the "ohh, they're so pretty" responses are a waste of time, especially since they so often accompany birds that are of poor quality (not that I'm knowledgeable about show quality, but it becomes obvious from other posts). If the opening poster wasn't looking for a critical assessment, perhaps "Pictures & Stories of My Chickens" would have been a better place to post the pictures. Or, maybe the "Official Wyandotte Thread" if the poster wanted to make sure those in this community noticed the pictures.

PS I am really glad we do not have hatcheries ,other than for commercial hybrids & broilers.

Where is that?​

 

[speckledhen]

Yes, there is a humongous difference, but then, there was a big difference between my single combed Wyandotte and my very nice GLW I had last year. Lorelei had decent lacing but was longer in body than she should have been. My rose combed girls were much rounder with much more typical Wyandotte bodies. Yours a pretty girl, nonetheless, great quality per standard or not, so just enjoy her.

 

[easttxchick]

Quote:
Diplomacy, much?
I think both of your birds are really pretty and as long as you do, that's all that really matters, right(especially now that they've started laying for you)?
My SLW is a little bit smaller than my GLW(they are the same age) and I even find their temperment to be different as well.

I have an SLW with backward lacing(which I have no intention of breeding) and since I don't plan on putting her on display in the Silver Laced Wyandotte Museum de Perfection, I think I'll continue to enjoy having her in my flock and selling those eggs she gives me everyday.

David's response was a bit terse, but when pictures of a breed are presented in "breeds, genetics & showing" pointing out the faults seems an appropriate response. I often think the "ohh, they're so pretty" responses are a waste of time, especially since they so often accompany birds that are of poor quality (not that I'm knowledgeable about show quality, but it becomes obvious from other posts). If the opening poster wasn't looking for a critical assessment, perhaps "Pictures & Stories of My Chickens" would have been a better place to post the pictures. Or, maybe the "Official Wyandotte Thread" if the poster wanted to make sure those in this community noticed the pictures.

PS I am really glad we do not have hatcheries ,other than for commercial hybrids & broilers.

Where is that?​

Never mind.

 

[newchickmom09]

OK, down boys down.

I started the post so people could see the difference between the two of them. This is why I posted this in the breeds. I knew what I was getting into, there are sum very breed savy people on here and they KNOW there breeds and the standards. I am learning and want to learn more about my breeds that I have chosen to keep. So from me posting them I am learning and I love reading what others have to say that have the experience and knowledge that I don't yet have. Plus in the future for anyone else that has the same thing as me, they can look this up and learn too.

 

[TimG]

Since I've recently been curious about comb genetics, let me see if I have things straight where the Wyandotte's rose comb is concerned.

Rose combs are the result of two recessive pea comb genes (p,p) and at least one dominate rose comb gene (R,r) or (R,R). So, Wyandottes are either

(p,p) (R,r) or
(p,p) (R,R).

When two (p,p) (R,r) Wyandottes are bred, some (p,p) (r,r) -- single comb -- offspring will result.

One could breed out the recessive rose comb gene to produce all (p,p) (R,R) Wyandottes, but I have read that homozygous (R,R) males have reduced fertility. That would make it harder to breed out the recessive rose comb gene and perhaps even undesirable -- you might do better with regular fertility and culling the single combs than with the reduced fertility and no need to cull the single combs, I guess it matters just how reduced the fertility is and how you feel about the culling.

Am I right in assuming that the single comb is a disqualification in the show ring?

 

[speckledhen]

I believe you are correct about the DQ for single comb in Wyandottes.