What breed of horse did they use...

I stand corrected as to the question as to the where.

The ones that are "here" that "I" worked with were genreally cantakerous, had low motivation, and simply not very willing. One I would have considered dangerous, but probably had more to do with initial handling than the horse itself. I would put him in the spoiled horse category.

I don't know that they are related in any way to the Shetland Pony, but in my experience displayed some of the strong willed ways of that breed.

I do not know the breed in depth, but have had less than great expeiences with the ones I handled.

I am sure there are some great ones.

Not trying to start a scrap here just a bit of my own experience
 
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he is just PLUNGING through that water! I bet he would be a fun eventer haha, but I'm biased
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A link to the American Morgan website. You can also view famous Morgans in our US history. Although I'm not saying that in developing the breed other breeds were not used... but they (Arabians) are not heavy in the Morgan development and structure to structure are not the same.

http://www.morganhorse.com/about_the_morgan/history/

Please don't think I'm bashing or dismissing Arabians, they are a beautiful breed.
 
Did someone say they used walkers to plow fields? That's my breed do explain. A friend of ours has drafts, they are awesome. I have seen some of the old style Morgans i prefer them by far. Whats a TB?
 
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I like Fjords. I also have a soft spot for Haflingers (which are still refered to as the "tractor of the Alps")

We have a haflinger cross awesome pony!
 
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>>> Question:
>>> They told me that one of the big popular Morgan stallions was almost all
>>> Saddlebred blood when they did DNA testing. Does anybody know anything
>>> about that?
>>>>
>>> Answer:
>>> Yeah, I know all about it....... This is pretty long, but it is
>>> probably the tightest I can tell the story.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Ekstrom was a Morgan breeder (in Indianna I think). He had
>>>> produced a really nice stud named FCF Rhythm Nation (barn name was
>>>> "Nate") via embryo transfer. This stud was subsequently bought by the
>>>> Curtis family over here in Florida. This black stud was an incredible
>>>> horse, he won several World Championships in Park Harness and Park
>>>> Saddle. The trainer, Richard Boule, (I love this guy and we bought
>>>> several horses from him over the years) did a wonderful job with him.
>>>> He and the Curtises formed a partnership called the Accel Partnership
>>>> and Nate was the central part of their operation.
>>>>
>>>> In the late 90's and 2000-2001 they were cranking out some top stock,
>>>> weanlings selling at $10,000 and up and yearlings that were selling in
>>>> the $20,000 and up price range, get that were winning world
>>>> championships, horses that were being exported to England and other
>>>> countries.....very, very nice horses. We were fortunate enough to buy
>>>> several horses from Richard Boule for our farm and our customers: Accel
>>>> King of Hearts, Like The Candy, PJM Time Factor, Highlander Coress.
>>>> None of these were sired by Nate. We also had a couple of 2000 babies
>>>> that were sired by Nate: Accel Rhythm Dancer and another young gelding
>>>> that we only had for a few weeks before selling him, I cannot remember
>>>> his papered name but we called him Rowdy.
>>>>
>>>> Then in late 2001, someone who worked for Bruce Ekstrom had a bit of a
>>>> tiff with him and this former employee of his went to the Morgan horse
>>>> Association and told the association that the horse FCF Rhythm Nation
>>>> was not full Morgan and was out of a saddlebred mare. The Morgan Horse
>>>> Association had DNA on the stud and nothing appeared to be out of
>>>> order, the DNA samples matched the DNA that was recorded for his sire
>>>> and dam.
>>>>
>>>> Further investigation however showed that the dam, Chantilly Lace, was
>>>> an elderly mare whose sire and dam were both very lightly bred and had
>>>> no other get that were breeding, so any attempt to verify the Chantilly
>>>> Lace DNA hit a brick wall since neither her sire nor dam were DNA
>>>> tested and were both deceased and there were no full or half siblings
>>>> with recorded DNA on file.
>>>>
>>>> Still, there was not enough to validate the claim by the former
>>>> employee. Bruce ekstrom was asked to produce the mare Chantilly Lace
>>>> for the association to draw blood and verify markings, etc. He then
>>>> claimed that the mare had been ill and had been put down. When asked
>>>> for the mare's gravesite so DNA could be obtained, he claimed that the
>>>> mare had been shipped to slaughter and a body was not available.
>>>>
>>>> The association contacted the person who made the claim against Ekstrom
>>>> to see if more information could be obtained, I am not sure if it was
>>>> this person who knew the whereabouts of the "real" Chantilly Lace, or
>>>> if someone else volunteered the information, but the real Chantilly
>>>> Lace was eventually located. Ekstrom had given her to some farmer (in
>>>> Texas I think). The elderly mare matched the registry's descriptions
>>>> and DNA was taken from her and it did not match FCF Rhythm Nation.
>>>>
>>>> The Morgan Horse Association contacted the Saddlebred association and
>>>> provided blood sample for FCF Rhythm Nation. The saddlebred assocation
>>>> was able to narrow it down pretty quickly because the DNA had markers
>>>> specific to a very popular saddlebred breeding stallion, Radiant
>>>> Sultan. They compared it against his registered foals and were able to
>>>> identify the dam of FCF Rhythm Nation as a saddlebred mare named
>>>> Summer's Song P.F. bred by Pratense Farm in Illinois.
>>>>
>>>> As soon as this was discovered in 2002, the association pulled the
>>>> papers on FCF Rhythm Nation and suspended papers on all of his
>>>> registered get until the association's lawyers decided what to do.
>>>>
>>>> There were lawsuits flying all over the place....several of my local
>>>> competetor friends had babies sired by Nate, our talented two year old
>>>> named FCF Rhythm Dancer had his papers pulled also. I was just itching
>>>> to break him to harness for showing, but we had to see what was going
>>>> to happen to the papers.
>>>>
>>>> Eventually the papers on all of the get were canceled. Accel
>>>> partnership dissolved and filed bankruptcy. Richard Boule, the
>>>> trainer, took ownership of Nate, he loved that stallion so much he did
>>>> not want to see anything ill become of him. Richard was offered a job
>>>> back up in New England and before leaving Florida he tried to place
>>>> Nate with some of the local barns, we were contacted to see if we
>>>> wanted Nate. We declined as we really did not have the facilities for
>>>> a stud (we would have gelded him) and we reqlly would not have had any
>>>> use for him....he couldn't show and it was doubtful that he would ever
>>>> become a lesson horse. Richard eventually found a home for him and
>>>> Nate is now a foundation stallion for the Renai Horse Association (an
>>>> association trying to create a new breed from Saddlebred, Morgan,
>>>> Arabian and Dutch Harness horse stock).
>>>>
>>>> The Curtis' daughter is still involved with horses and is a riding
>>>> instructor at a saddlebred farm not too far from me in Land O Lakes,
>>>> FL.
>>>>
>>>> Accel Rhythm Nation is still at the farm I used to work for, they are
>>>> trying to make him into a lesson horse.
 

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