What color is this araucana

[poultrykeeper08]

The lady i got them from said her friend had gotten them from hihkjc . I have been looking for her email and cant find it now

my email erases old emails and then you cant ever get them back

Well anyways she and her friend were getting into araucanas and they gave me hinjc website and told me they had ordered eggs from them . These birds were the culls becasue they were clean faced and tailed although i got a rumpless from her and an identical one to the one pictured but my yorkies killed it .

If the one pictured is an EE why is her sister rumpless ?

 

[poultrykeeper08]

A fellow BYC'er has an almost identical bird that also came from Hinjc stock .

 

[Rainbowbirds-of-a-Feather]

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Ahhh, you see you left that out or I missed it in the message. Throw-backs that could be the reason or they did some out-crossing when they got it from hihkjc. Again I need to see the flock the other two peolple have in order to make some more deductions and or to see what else this flock is running with. But they come in a variety too.

Why are one rumpless and another not. It depends on the flock these other people have. With Aracunas there are different types. rumpless w/clean face, tailed w/clean face, tuft/rumpless, tuft/tailed...etc...You may just have the non-standard type variety or a mix of standard/non-standard.


But again you do have pretty birds...

 

[poultrykeeper08]

I know that araucanas come in all kinds of forms such as clean faced tailed , rumpless tufted , tailed tufted , Etc

I just dont get why you call her an EE ? Care to explain ?

 

[Rainbowbirds-of-a-Feather]

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I just dont get why you call her an EE ? Care to explain ?

EE's are birds that are out-croosed w/ other chickens. They don't lay the standard egg blue. They lay green, brown,& pink eggs not fitting APA requirements, for shows.

In some cases they refer to birds that lay the eggs (Blue) but don't fit the APA requirements, for shows.

They may even fit under another category other than Standard for the breed.

I was just refering to the red one, she my just be a non-standard version, true to breed but a mixture of any two types of feather patterns to create the unique pattern.

The white sister looks wheaten but the coloring is flipped looking. But they again are still pretty. I like non-standard birds myself and adore the diversity in the patterns. I would definately want birds like them...

 

[amazondoc]

Rainbowbirds may not understand that araucana folks don't call a bird an ee just because it's not a standard color, the way ameraucana people do. And yes, there are araucanas with different leg colors.

 

[Riocotesei]

The reason I thought she was a EE was because she had light colored legs, no beard or muff, and she didn't have a recognized color.
It makes more sence when you explain that though, I didn't know that Araucanas could be tailed and Tuft/muffless.
My mistake, I'm sorry if I confused anyone.
I just know alot of people get the whole Araucana/ Ameraucana / EE thing mixed up so I thought that was what was up.

 

[amazondoc]

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Araucanas in this country NEVER have muffs, so let's just leave that one out of the equation altogether.

But yes -- it's a mystery to me how araucanas ever got accepted into the APA, because they do NOT breed true. The "ideal" araucana, of course, is doubled-tufted-rumpless-accepted-feather-color-accepted-leg-color. But that combination hardly ever happens!

I feel VERY fortunate that, out of my first 4 araucanas hatched, two of em have double tufts and all are rumpless. But one of the tufted chicks has yellow legs (at least right now, it's only 3 days old!), and I don't know yet whether either one will be an accepted color or not. It's a real challenge to get an araucana that meets ALL the criteria at the same time!

 

[hinkjc]

These are not outcrosses to any other breed here. My birds are penned by breed. I can't speak for the person who sold them to you. If they are direct from me, they are from my mixed color araucana flock, which is why they are non standard colors. The white laced one looks exactly like the red/black one, but completely diluted except for the red. Hmmm, since we have already replicated that white with lacing three times, I may have to do some more hatching here and see what I get. I really haven't had time to work on that group of araucana recently because of my other projects. The only araucana color we keep pure right now is our white flocks, which is stated in my ads and the eggs are marked, which pen they came from.

 

[wilds of pa]

I feel some folks use the word EE to freely
In my eyes there's a difference between a mutt and an EE.

Heres my definition of an EE
the majority should have muffs and beards, however we had ee's and sometimes there would be cleaned faced from the breeding, yes these were hatchery birds that we had, but it was vary rare that they hatched clean faced, should lay colored eggs(blue, green and light brown, lavender etc). Some can breed true to color, however the color may not be standard but can be replicated in offsrping..body conformation in our EE was very similar to an ameraucana and always bred true to that conformation..

Mutt anything goes...straight, pea, rose, v combs from crossing two breeds and cant breed true to color or conformation, unrecognizable traits. If somebody takes a silkie and breeds it to an RIR in my eyes that is not an EE but clearly a mutt..

Charlie

These folks who put this site together are absolutely correct in there definition of an EE
http://www.eastereggers.com