What color is this? Experienced breeders, anyone now?

[Thepigeonguy]

I've had this bird for 2 years and never found out his color. This picture is from about a year ago. The lighting isn't good but I can try to get a better picture later. He's a birmingham roller. It was pretty cold outside, too, that's why he's hunched up.

 

[biophiliac]

I've had this bird for 2 years and never found out his color. This picture is from about a year ago. The lighting isn't good but I can try to get a better picture later. He's a birmingham roller. It was pretty cold outside, too, that's why he's hunched up.
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You have some interesting colors!

 

[biophiliac]

IDK if this pic will post, I googled recessive red, reduced...

 

[biophiliac]

Is it like this? What they call yellow is really reduced or dilute recessive red.

 

[Thepigeonguy]

My bird's a little lighter than than one, also no pattern except for some occasional dark brown spots. I've also looked through Levi's The Encyclopedia of Pigeon Breeds and couldn't find anything like it. As I said, I will try to get a better picture. Your picture did post.

 

[Thepigeonguy]

Is it like this? What they call yellow is really reduced or dilute recessive red.

I think you found it. Yes, my bird is like that. Thanks. Most yellows I've seen are darker than that.

 

[biophiliac]

The darker vs lighter can vary alot depending if its dilute, pale, almond or reduced affecting the color. Sometimes it matters if they get a single or double dose of the allele... I don't pretend to understand all the details. If the bird is a recessive red that just means the genes for recessive red are covering up one of the 3 basic colors. Same with recessive white, neither one is a color, and are not sex-linked. They just prevent the expression of the underlying color.

 

[Thepigeonguy]

Video of the bird. Unfortunately the sattinetes were taken by predators while we moved.

I hope the link works.

 

[backyard pigeons]

I think its called almond, but im not positive

 

[Thepigeonguy]

I think its called almond, but im not positive

Some of its markings are similar to an almonds, however they are occasional spots, not full covering like this.