What colors will they produce?

[Pumperkinz]

Here are a couple of the girls that were hatched by a white Mama this year. I only let her sit on her eggs so I know they're all hers but it's a crap shoot who the dads are. Either gray, gray Saddleback or the cream boy.

Here are pictures of the blue girl I kept but the other blue girl looked identical. This is what I'd call Blue in my very limited knowledge so please advise. Her stance is very much like the gray Saddleback Gander which leads me to think he might have fathered most of the babies however not the full gray girl. Sounds like based on your explanation he could throw a lot of variance so he could be the dad.
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I also had two white twin girls hatch this year out of the same bunch, all the same mom. They both definitely carry color because they have a few dark feathers on their back. Could the Saddleback Gander be there dad also?
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Yes the girl up front would be an "overly marked blue saddleback with some dilution). She's very close to being a lavender but she's a hue darker, but not dark enough to be grey.

My lavender gander is overly marked, but it's hard to tell because the soft silver and white looks so similar.

As for the whites there can be some first year grey single feathers, it's not a defect per SOP. If you read the book it's normal to have some random color feathers but not to clip them etc. Defects would be angel wing, head, weight etc.

I've spent a lot of time researching, and learning years prior and educating myself and the breeders I know.

All my stock came from Annette Roundtree via Happy Daze Ranch out of OH. Been a fantastic experience so far tbh.

 

[Strawberry74]

Yes the girl up front would be an "overly marked blue saddleback with some dilution). She's very close to being a lavender but she's a hue darker, but not dark enough to be grey.

My lavender gander is overly marked, but it's hard to tell because the soft silver and white looks so similar.

As for the whites there can be some first year grey single feathers, it's not a defect per SOP. If you read the book it's normal to have some random color feathers but not to clip them etc. Defects would be angel wing, head, weight etc.

I've spent a lot of time researching, and learning years prior and educating myself and the breeders I know.

All my stock came from Annette Roundtree via Happy Daze Ranch out of OH. Been a fantastic experience so far tbh.

This is also very interesting! I so appreciate your time and guidance. Do you think that it's quite likely that the gray dilute Saddleback gander is the father of the blue and the whites this year?

I have spoken with Happy Daze Ranch a few times! He just acquired the Roundtree Birds this last year. He has some gorgeous birds! I'm tempted. However I don't show or do anything with them other than just enjoy their beauty around the farm so I have to keep my spending in check And I'm also not very good about selling babies or adults!

I think you said you're on a mission with your gray saddlebacks. Is that correct? Do yours have blue eyes?

 

[Pumperkinz]

This is also very interesting! I so appreciate your time and guidance. Do you think that it's quite likely that the gray dilute Saddleback gander is the father of the blue and the whites this year?

I have spoken with Happy Daze Ranch a few times! He just acquired the Roundtree Birds this last year. He has some gorgeous birds! I'm tempted. However I don't show or do anything with them other than just enjoy their beauty around the farm so I have to keep my spending in check And I'm also not very good about selling babies or adults!

I think you said you're on a mission with your gray saddlebacks. Is that correct? Do yours have blue eyes?

It could very well be!


Jerry has been a fantastic mentor for myself, and I've learned a lot from him.

I'm working on the greys this year, and I have some buff plans as well as a full white line.

But that's a lot of work lol

I start showing next year for all my colors (Honk & Howl Farm) out of upstate NY as well. I'll have a good bit of goslings depending on when they start hatching/laying. A few of my girls are mid molt from stress it seems, so we will probably end up with a feb start to breeding season.

 

[Strawberry74]

Does his flight feathers have any darker color then the normal soft brown?

I raise the cream out because he's a softer brown but I don't see any dark dark feathers like the normal buffs.

The picture of him at about 2 or 3 months old show the darkest feathers he's ever had. A few more pics below. Now that maybe cream is a better description what would he then produce? I'll have to see if Jerry can give me his 2 cents also since he has cream geese.

Cream(?) gander with:
White goose
Gray saddleback goose
Gray goose
Blue splash goose
Buff goose

 

[Pumperkinz]

Cream Gander x Grey Goose - 50/50 Blue/Lilac
Cream x White - This is a little tricky depending on what the back end traits the white is covering but should be something around Blue/Lilac/Lavender/Cream
Cream x SB Grey - Blue/Lilac
Cream x Blue SB/Splash - Blue/Cream/Lavender/Lilac
Cream x Buff - Lilac

Tbh the more i look at this it looks like almost lilac, the one pic of cream was before they got their big feathers. So maybe he's just a lighter buff or on the verge of being a lilac?

If you were pen breeding you could drop him in with the solid buff girl and see if he were to produce all lilacs then it'd confirm the cream since it produces solid lilacs with buffxcream crosses.

If he's lilac it gets into a million different combos I think we had discussed above, but either way he's a pretty boy! I love my buffs they are the sweetest.

 

[Pumperkinz]

You know he has a good pic of a lilac/buff pic here - I would call it stony or like a pewter color in the middle and the buff has a deeper "brown" so maybe this helps you in person. I love the buffs so much! His do have a white dot on the tips so I think the brown bean thing is probably just random chance the more I go through.

 

[Pumperkinz]

Photo Credit - Happy Daze Ranch

This is a photo of his Cream + Buff Pair for reference.

Annette's creams too hope this helps!