what could have happened?

[ivan3]

thecityman wrote:

Once she died, since I knew (or at least strongly suspected) that the death was due to trama and not disease, etc and I found her while she was still warm, I decided to clean and eat her instead of letting her go to waste. (many of you may have just cringed!) SO I actually examined her very clearly since I had to defeather her. I saw not a single bruise (though they may not have had time to form since I was cleaning her less than 12 hours after the attack. And in spite of teh fact that there was an amazing amount of feathers all over the pen, when I was removing her feathers I really didn't see any bald spots or other areas that made it obvious where on her body the feathers came from. I also saw no blood or any remarkable wounds of any kind on her.

Holmes: "Observe, Watson, the meat is unmarked and untainted."
Dr. Watson: "Quite remarkable. Another slice, if you'd be so good, Holmes."...

Insect in the auditory canal that drove her to distraction?

Waste not, want not.​

 

[thecityman]

I suppose anything is possible, including the insect in the ear....never heard of it driving them so crazy they flop around and loose that many feathers, but then again I'm new to all this.

Its funny to me that you guys are not the least bit put off by the idea of me eating a bird while I'm still morning its death (and I really did morn...these things are VERY important to me!). I imagine that if I told most of my non-BYC friends that I found a bird that had been attacked and died soon after and then I ate it.....they'd freak! haha Its nice to be surrounded by like minded people. I also must admit that it wasn't ONLY about not wating the meat, but was also about me just being very, very curious about how it would taste. Mine are easten wilds but having been raised in captivity and fed high-fat food and them not getting as much excersize as tehy would in the wild, I really wondered it the meat would be better (including more fat) than a true wild turkey, which I have eaten several times and, to be honest, isn't the best eating turkey there is (compared to butterball, etc. But are still good. AS for this one, I must say it was REALLY good and did seem a little less tough and had slightly more fat (which is a good thing in terms of taste if not health).

Denninmi, I ABSOLUTELY remember you and I'm VERY glad you said hello! Its really cool to make friends with such similar interests on here. Sounds like you are still enjoying this hobby, as am I. Its been a long, strange road for me but I've enjoyed almost every moment of it. Wish I had more but considering I live in the middle of town, I'm lucky to have what I do....its technically not even legal to have them in my zoning but my neighbors are all good about it and I work for the city which doesn't hurt! haah.

Kevin

 

[ivan3]

thecityman wrote:

Its funny to me that you guys are not the least bit put off by the idea of me eating a bird while I'm still morning its death (and I really did morn...these things are VERY important to me!). I imagine that if I told most of my non-BYC friends that I found a bird that had been attacked and died soon after and then I ate it.....they'd freak! haha Its nice to be surrounded by like minded people. I also must admit that it wasn't ONLY about not wating the meat, but was also about me just being very, very curious about how it would taste.

For us, the realism comes with the territory, i.e., they seem as ephemeral as they are evanescent. We live no where near the `city'. We employ high fencing/three live traps and snares/baby monitors/rifles/etc. for protection. Haven't had to reach for the violin/needle to figure a solution for the usual suspects.

However, one can always rely on the freaky/flukey to deliver up cases that require more than a little magnification and, often, even this is not enough.

A couple of examples:

Pulmonary E. Coli: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=77224

Chondrosarcoma (and surgery): http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/IvanIvanovich/SCREAMER/ (he is now 5.5yrs old and still `screaming').​

 

[ivan3]

thecityman wrote:

Ivan-

First, you have to explain to me the violin/needle comment??

Second, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed those links. Reading that autopsy (necropsy) report was very interesting. As were the photos of that growth. Now, I love my turkeys WAY more than most people, but I'm sure I'd be willing to be the very high vet bill that I'm guessing went along with having the surgery shown in those photos. But Kudos for those who would (and did). Btw, just you know for future reference, my turkeys are eastern wilds that I hatched after mom and most of the eggs in a nest were ran over by a bush hog. I understand that is controversial but know I was responsible for the death of mom and a full generation of offspring was more than I could take so I decided to do what I could and ended up saving 5. After escapes and other problems, I'm now down to 2- one tom, one hen. I personally think this is a far cry from another post made teh last few days from a lady who basically said she just robbed a wild turkey nest that was probably still viable and would have made it, but I know many people we should never poses wild turkeys. For what its worth, they are all I have and wont be in contact with any other turkeys, wild or otherwise. Just wanted you to know because you seem very devoted and knowledgeable and suspect I may be reaching out to you again in the future!

{cross posted in thread linked in previous post).

First, violin and needle (I was just staying with the S.Holmes theme - when trying to work out his deductions, in frustrating cases and when bored, it was off to the violin and the cocaine).

The vet bill for the surgery was $140.00 (and the doc let me shoot the pics - excellent vet).

Good luck to you and yours (remember to tell everyone they are some kind of Cross `What do you mean, Wilds? - you could get in a bit of a pickle if you're found out).​