What did you do in the garden today?

[Sueby]

We try & support local so we either go out (only when they had outdoor seating) or order out from local businesses on Friday nights since COVID started. I feel it's very important to support our local owned restaurants, they are getting so screwed with all of this. So DH went in to pick up our salads from a local pizza place & all the cooks had their masks on, but down around their chins. I'm so sad because I want to support these places & I don't want to report them - but now I no longer want to go there. How hard is it to wear your mask properly??? It's so frustrating.

Anyway, morning all. Cold out there & back to work. Blech.

 

[littledog]

I honestly don't understand how taking sensible covid precautions has somehow become an assault on our freedom, according to some. The freedoms and liberties we seem to take for granted today, were all paid for by past generations in numerous times of crises and wars and depressions - too many paying the ultimate sacrifice with their lives and the lives of their loved ones.
We're in another crisis, this time fighting a war against a pandemic - why is something so simple as staying home as much as possible, and wearing a mask when we need to go out, considered by some as so intolerable?
My late Dad was part of D-Day, froze his way through Europe from Utah Beach to Germany, earned a Purple Heart, and never considered what he did as anything other than his duty as an American citizen.
But simply staying home as much as possible and wearing a mask at the grocery store is too much of a sacrifice for some people.
I get that these shutdowns are destroying small businesses - but if we'd had a strict national 3-week shutdown in early March combined with a stimulus bill that actually benefitted small businesses and individuals, then a national mask mandate until July, along with localized shutdowns based on contact tracing... many lives would have been saved and many of us would now be able to visit our families for Christmas.
Rant over, sorry if I offended anybody.

 

[Wee Farmer Sarah]

Yes it is very frustrating at the lack of concern by a few individuals who just don't understand these simple strategies and get so indignant when asked to do something so easy to comply with. What the more "enlightened" folks like us can only do is to protect ourselves as much as possible. Remember the mask protects the wearers and the people around them. Eventually the anti-masker rebels will either get smarter or just get sick. It's really futile to try to control another persons behavior. The best we can do is to lead by example.

 

[Artichoke Lover]

Responding to little dog here. (My phone’s acting up and I can’t quote her sorry)
Some people myself (my mom is Immunocompromised do to a multiple organ transplant several years ago) .included believe that there’s nothing wrong with wearing a mask we do and hope everyone around us does too. The mask itself actually has very little to do with everything for most people. But we don’t believe that the federal government should make that decision for everyone. Some believe it should be the state, some the town, others believe it’s up to the person. We believe that part of the freedoms. We have here in the U.S. is the ability to make decisions for ourselves, even if they are stupid ones. We want people to make the right choice but we don’t believe that they can be forced too. The reason for this is not all the decisions made by the government are good for the us as the people. Politicians have certainly proved that they don’t tend to have first in mind. And we’re afraid that they may use this as a precedent for enforcing that the same way. Then there’s also people who just hate masks and use it as an excuse. Or who do it for internet points which makes me extremely angry but that’s a whole different rant.
Please I’m not trying to start a fight here I’m just trying to answer question. I know some people won’t agree (and I have no problem with that.) but let’s not start a fight over this. Please!

 

[WthrLady]

We try & support local so we either go out (only when they had outdoor seating) or order out from local businesses on Friday nights since COVID started. I feel it's very important to support our local owned restaurants, they are getting so screwed with all of this. So DH went in to pick up our salads from a local pizza place & all the cooks had their masks on, but down around their chins. I'm so sad because I want to support these places & I don't want to report them - but now I no longer want to go there. How hard is it to wear your mask properly??? It's so frustrating.

Anyway, morning all. Cold out there & back to work. Blech.

You could always mention it to the owner/operator. Otherwise, just don't frequent them anymore. Use your money at another local establishment.

 

[WthrLady]

I honestly don't understand how taking sensible covid precautions has somehow become an assault on our freedom, according to some. The freedoms and liberties we seem to take for granted today, were all paid for by past generations in numerous times of crises and wars and depressions - too many paying the ultimate sacrifice with their lives and the lives of their loved ones.
We're in another crisis, this time fighting a war against a pandemic - why is something so simple as staying home as much as possible, and wearing a mask when we need to go out, considered by some as so intolerable?
My late Dad was part of D-Day, froze his way through Europe from Utah Beach to Germany, earned a Purple Heart, and never considered what he did as anything other than his duty as an American citizen.
But simply staying home as much as possible and wearing a mask at the grocery store is too much of a sacrifice for some people.
I get that these shutdowns are destroying small businesses - but if we'd had a strict national 3-week shutdown in early March combined with a stimulus bill that actually benefitted small businesses and individuals, then a national mask mandate until July, along with localized shutdowns based on contact tracing... many lives would have been saved and many of us would now be able to visit our families for Christmas.
Rant over, sorry if I offended anybody.

NO offense taken.
But part of our government system disallows for Federal Rule over State.
So while it is a great idea, our system does not allow it.
The same goes for state and local laws and mandates. Challenges must make their way through the lawyers and court systems to make sure they aren't stepping on any constitutional or legal toes or personal liberties. That's just the way it is HERE.
Although, even in places, like the UK that did totally lock down on a National level, and shut places down to a degree we can't even fathom, had a resurgence and are totally locked down again.
At this point, it just IS what it is. I'm doing what I need to do just to be allowed to do tomorrow.
I find the destruction of small and local businesses abhorrent. At the start, agencies blew it by decided who/what was essential.
The true nail in the coffin for many was working from home. Even when businesses reopened, the lunchtime crowd was gone. Busy working parents, no longer juggled a million kid activities and quick dinner runs stopped.
I'm still amazed that many people/companies think we all have access to these have food/stuff delivered concepts. Blows my mind. PLUS, who/what do they think does all the work. There is now a HUGE army of delivery people,inventory control, stockers, pickers, packers behind every delivery. It's just shifted who is out when and why.
The number of dirty credit cards handled by one checkout person at a drive through is staggering! When they touch your card, you're touching every card they touch.
People are now suffering from fatigue. Everyplace I've been is getting beyond lax in their controls, which just shows how much they don't care anymore and are just going through the motions so they can stay open.

OH I went in to pick up my new cell phone in the city a couple of weeks ago. You couldn't wait inside, you waited your turn in the car, which was totally fine. When you went in, they asked you to hand sanitize (I carry my own I'm not allergic to) and they spray and wipe down the tables and chairs you sit down at to go through the sale. She wiped the chairs AND THEN the table. I was grossed out in a whole other level. I stood for two hours and we used a different table. She never did do her hands, even though she dealt with a communal register, all shared a store remote for the football game TV, handled customers phones and a communal check in I-pad.
It's all for show at this point.

 

[WthrLady]

Responding to little dog here. (My phone’s acting up and I can’t quote her sorry)
Some people myself (my mom is Immunocompromised do to a multiple organ transplant several years ago) .included believe that there’s nothing wrong with wearing a mask we do and hope everyone around us does too. The mask itself actually has very little to do with everything for most people. But we don’t believe that the federal government should make that decision for everyone. Some believe it should be the state, some the town, others believe it’s up to the person. We believe that part of the freedoms. We have here in the U.S. is the ability to make decisions for ourselves, even if they are stupid ones. We want people to make the right choice but we don’t believe that they can be forced too. The reason for this is not all the decisions made by the government are good for the us as the people. Politicians have certainly proved that they don’t tend to have first in mind. And we’re afraid that they may use this as a precedent for enforcing that the same way. Then there’s also people who just hate masks and use it as an excuse. Or who do it for internet points which makes me extremely angry but that’s a whole different rant.
Please I’m not trying to start a fight here I’m just trying to answer question. I know some people won’t agree (and I have no problem with that.) but let’s not start a fight over this. Please!

OMWord! Is that a little Doninique or Barred Cockerell in your photo???? It looks like a little napping gremlin.

 

[Artichoke Lover]

Barred Rock!

 

[karenerwin]

So I have scheduled my test for tomorrow at noon. That is the soonest available. I canceled my dentist appointment ( haven't been all year ) and decided not to do any of my errands until I know the results of my test.
I am having headaches ( which is how several people have said theirs started) and I'm tired, but I didn't sleep well. Was woken up by Charlie Horses in both thighs. Does that count as muscle cramps ( I think so).
@penny1960 reporting them won't do any good. So many people in the plant including managers do the same thing. There are 70 people on my shift working on 5 different lines, plus forklift drivers, warehouse workers and the 2 boxmakers ( I'm one of them).
I have considered my coworker and I relatively safe because there are just the 2 of us in our area in the basement (warehouse) and not too many people come down there. But of course the lady that just tested positive was down in our area the weekend before she got her positive test standing next to me as I worked at my station. I put my mask on but she did not.
My coworker and I don't wear ours because we work more than 6 feet apart. We put our masks on when we start to head up for breaks because we walk within 6 feet of each other and we have to walk through the entire factory to get to the break room.
I had just told her yesterday, that I was going to be really annoyed if we both get it because others were coming down to our area without masking. Plus I doubt they really disinfected our area after a boxmaker on another shift tested positive. That person uses the same work station that I do and we only find out when we have a positive case because my step daughter tells me. We don't get the informational emails.

 

[WthrLady]

So I have scheduled my test for tomorrow at noon. That is the soonest available. I canceled my dentist appointment ( haven't been all year ) and decided not to do any of my errands until I know the results of my test.
I am having headaches ( which is how several people have said theirs started) and I'm tired, but I didn't sleep well. Was woken up by Charlie Horses in both thighs. Does that count as muscle cramps ( I think so).
@penny1960 reporting them won't do any good. So many people in the plant including managers do the same thing. There are 70 people on my shift working on 5 different lines, plus forklift drivers, warehouse workers and the 2 boxmakers ( I'm one of them).
I have considered my coworker and I relatively safe because there are just the 2 of us in our area in the basement (warehouse) and not too many people come down there. But of course the lady that just tested positive was down in our area the weekend before she got her positive test standing next to me as I worked at my station. I put my mask on but she did not.
My coworker and I don't wear ours because we work more than 6 feet apart. We put our masks on when we start to head up for breaks because we walk within 6 feet of each other and we have to walk through the entire factory to get to the break room.
I had just told her yesterday, that I was going to be really annoyed if we both get it because others were coming down to our area without masking. Plus I doubt they really disinfected our area after a boxmaker on another shift tested positive. That person uses the same work station that I do and we only find out when we have a positive case because my step daughter tells me. We don't get the informational emails.

Hope you don't, but it sounds like your area was contaminated.
The fatigue, achy hit and rolled by a bus feeling, fever, and night shakes were the worst part for me.