I was talking fruit trees with my Dad today. He's an UMO Ag major from WAY back in the day. He was talking about the old timer method of dwarfing trees by cutting a girdle around the tree when the bark is at the slip stage: basically girdle a 2" section of bark all the way around, slip it off, turn it upside down, and put it back into place, with a good coat of wax to keep it from drying out. He says that's how they used to dwarf apple trees. Any one ever heard of this method or used it? I may play with it if I am successful starting some seedling trees this season. That man is a power house of knowledge. And I'm realizing that I need to get his stuff written down before both he and I loose it.