What did you do in the garden today?

[cj2024]

I am trying something different with my moringa leaves. Instead of stripping each leaf off the stem branches, I decided to leave the leaves on the branches and cook it in my homemade chicken stock. I am thinking more along line of a medicinal/nutritional brew instead of a flavored soup. I will strain everything out when the moringa leaves turn soft.

The taste is on the bitter side........

 

[TJAnonymous]

We only have one vet who will treat our horses and goats in an emergency situation and he is exorbitantly expensive. I refuse to use him because I feel like he purposely price gouges on the border of being criminal.

Otherwise we have 2-4 other vets for "non-emergencies"... Among them are some who are incompetent, expensive (although not as bad as the aforementioned guy), non-responsive, or kinda far away.

In short... It's hard, very hard, to find anyone competent and dependable who doesn't put you at risk of having to take out a 2nd mortgage on your house just to get some over-priced medication.

 

[chickengr]

It's all good, until it isn't.
UGH What a morning.
I've got an alpaca, my favorite one - OC, down with what is probably meningeal deer worm. OMG no warning, no notice, nothing weird until yesterday. And OC there are no large animal vets here.
Guy couple miles down the road has a massive herd of high end llamas and I, out of desperation, called him.
He says it's super common and is shocked that I cannot just call up a vet, like he does and get the NSAID for livestock.
I have called and traveled to 8 vets this morning. I have taken a sample with me to have it tested and turn around is 2-3 days. Which he could be dead by then, AND OH BTW they don't treat alpacas anyway, but we can send away the poo and test it.
OMG.
I swear I'm going to loose my mind.
He wouldn't, or maybe couldn't, even get up this morning, partially the hill's fault. DH said he had trouble getting down to lay down yesterday, but he was up and grazing last night, no problem.
I rolled him over at lunch so he could at least sit up, and now it looks like he has the shivers and sometimes shakes his head.
The ONE vet, 30 miles away, who MIGHT be able to do ANYTHING, can't until she sees him and I'm a listed client and she can't come until the 23rd. OMG
This all sounds so fricken screwed up to me.

sorry to hear that. can you treat him? I googled and found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parelaphostrongylus_tenuis

I would try fenbendazole and ivermectin, combined with anti-inflammatory therapy as the text says.

 

[WthrLady]

We only have one vet who will treat our horses and goats in an emergency situation and he is exorbitantly expensive. I refuse to use him because I feel like he purposely price gouges on the border of being criminal.

Otherwise we have 2-4 other vets for "non-emergencies"... Among them are some who are incompetent, expensive (although not as bad as the aforementioned guy), non-responsive, or kinda far away.

In short... It's hard, very hard, to find anyone competent and dependable who doesn't put you at risk of having to take out a 2nd mortgage on your house just to get some over-priced medication.

I'm just shocked at the behavior. It's become on par with the follow the money people doctors. Screw the suffering - get on a list.

Big guy is still up there, tiny bit perkier than yesterday. In there enough for me NOT to want to shove worming paste in his mouth and grumbled at his shot. We may just have to do this without the anti-inflammatory/pain killer. He still might not make it. If the worms are too far gone and into his spine, he may never walk again. I can roll him over from his nightly sleep position and roll him into a sitting position, but he won't get on his feet.

Only time will tell. At least the weather is nice for this week, mostly. I need to figure out how to get him up under the barn wings for rain/snow on Thursday/Friday. But we'll figure it out.

 

[WthrLady]

sorry to hear that. can you treat him? I googled and found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parelaphostrongylus_tenuis

I would try fenbendazole and ivermectin, combined with anti-inflammatory therapy as the text says.

We're doing that already plus Vit B. The anti-inflammatory is script only and vets here either aren't large animal vets, so they won't write it. OR they are large animal vets, but won't write it as they don't do alpacas OR they are large animal vets, but won't write it as they have never seen me before/not a client, but they don't do alpacas so why would I have been a client. OMG it's insane.

 

[dirkandlorie]

We're doing that already plus Vit B. The anti-inflammatory is script only and vets here either aren't large animal vets, so they won't write it. OR they are large animal vets, but won't write it as they don't do alpacas OR they are large animal vets, but won't write it as they have never seen me before/not a client, but they don't do alpacas so why would I have been a client. OMG it's insane.

What about aspirin? That's an nsaid and supposed to be safe for alpacas? Sorry if that's A dumb question, but just hate that you're in this position with your favorite alpaca. So many veterinary clinics have been taken over by corporations that this is becoming all too common.

 

[jerryse]

Started ordering seeds.

 

[TJAnonymous]

I'm just shocked at the behavior. It's become on par with the follow the money people doctors. Screw the suffering - get on a list.

Big guy is still up there, tiny bit perkier than yesterday. In there enough for me NOT to want to shove worming paste in his mouth and grumbled at his shot. We may just have to do this without the anti-inflammatory/pain killer. He still might not make it. If the worms are too far gone and into his spine, he may never walk again. I can roll him over from his nightly sleep position and roll him into a sitting position, but he won't get on his feet.

Only time will tell. At least the weather is nice for this week, mostly. I need to figure out how to get him up under the barn wings for rain/snow on Thursday/Friday. But we'll figure it out.

I once called the crook vet for a horse that cut the Coronet Band of his hoof on some rusty barbed wire. It was bleeding pretty profusely. Vet came out, looked at it. Squirted some saline cleaner on it. Charged me $400. No stitches. Didn't even wrap it up.

Then my daughter made the mistake of calling him about one of our mares choking. He shoved a tube up her nose and nicked a polyp that no one knew was there. She nearly bled to death... But he eventually stopped it. Kept her at his clinic for 3 days. Charged me almost $7000.

Spoiler: Graphic photos

 

[WthrLady]

Good grief.
Well goodish news. I remember I had the name of a vet deep in a binder for when I first got out here and had the dog. I never went to him as he is down 35 miles of hard dirt deep country roads and in the wrong direction.
But by chance I called him. He said 'that all you need?' can you be here at 1230? UM YA.
So $30 later paca has the NSAID shot in his hip.
I'll give him a bit to work it in and they we'll see if we can get him UP on his feet. ugh.
Wormer for all later and as long as we're doing it. I may as well do the birds too.
sunny and 60! here at the moment. Insane.

 

[jxp]

I once called the crook vet for a horse that cut the Coronet Band of his hoof on some rusty barbed wire. It was bleeding pretty profusely. Vet came out, looked at it. Squirted some saline cleaner on it. Charged me $400. No stitches. Didn't even wrap it up.

Then my daughter made the mistake of calling him about one of our mares choking. He shoved a tube up her nose and nicked a polyp that no one knew was there. She nearly bled to death... But he eventually stopped it. Kept her at his clinic for 3 days. Charged me almost $7000.

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Whoa - that post needs a warning. Can you put those pictures in a spoiler or something please.