Hence I am beyond tempted to hatch these few eggs I got from mine and see what I get so as to have a better understanding!
I learn from seeing...i just gotta see what hatches out right yall!?!





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Hence I am beyond tempted to hatch these few eggs I got from mine and see what I get so as to have a better understanding!
I learn from seeing...i just gotta see what hatches out right yall!?!
Oh no popo! Sorry for your baby♡This morning she laid an egg, and this is the current pic. Bleeding, and it pops out more like a balloon when she seems to be straining. Could she be constipated? Urates are leaking. Only a small poop, probably after the soak. Not sure how, if needed, to stitch? Will do an Epsom salt soak, and essential oil for hemorrhoids. She drank water. Setting up larger cage this morning. Any more advice welcome, please.View attachment 3412760View attachment 3412762
Well they said they "assumed" Mareks based on the presentation of the nodules and such but they did not confirm Mareks. "Most likely Mareks" was the phrase. So while it is probably likely, it surprises me how few birds I have lost to it--namely the silkies!I'm thinking Nohope actually has two separate issues. I think he definitely had diptheric and dry fowl pox simultaneously back in November, which he's recovered from. The fact you said he's always been a little unsteady since he was a chick is making me think that he's always had some sort of central nervous system problem and that's what's affecting him now. It could be down to any number of causes e.g. viral, genetic, protazoan? Or maybe something like infectious tensynovitis? It seems to fit some of his latter symptoms. You said he's tested negative for Mareks and other ALVs?
Did you say JoJo had Mareks? Mareks is very contagious but does have different levels of virulence.
In view of the variable nature of the viruses involved and the factors limiting birds showing symptoms, it is possible for birds to present in different ways. Mortality in flocks can also vary, anything from 20% to 80%. Not all infected birds will even show any signs of illness, let alone symptoms. Presentation of Mareks in individual chickens is dependant on:
- strain and dose of virus
- age at exposure
- maternal antibodies
- host gender and genetics.
- strain and dose of vaccine virus, if birds are vaccinated
- several environmental factors, including stress.
It's now consided ubiquitous in the environment and all flocks are now assumed to have been exposed to the virus. Given that Polish chickens are highly susceptible to Mareks, it would make sense your Polish birds have been more adversely affected. What doesn't make sense is that your Silkies weren't, as they're considered highly susceptible to Mareks infection too. I don't know of any inherent problem with lavender genes in terms of Mareks either.
My only other thought at the moment is the environment of the coop itself, specifically the poor drainage. With that we're back to things like aspergilliosis, botulism, Clostridium septicum, C perfringens type A, and Staphylococcus aureus, e.coli, and heavy metals leaching up through the wet soil.
The gangrenous dermatitis often occurs as a secondary condition when a bird is immunosuppressed by something like infectious bursal disease, chicken infectious anemia, reticuloendotheliosis and reovirus. It has also been noted after systemic fowl pox outbreaks.
Is there any old lead paint anywhere on or in the coop? Zinc hardware cloth fragments they might have ingested? Can you get a blood test done for heavy metal poisoning, perhaps?
If that is the problem the epsom soaking should help! It relaxes their bowels a lot....I cleaned and wiped up my chicken's prolapse with witch hazel and then slathered in hemorrhoid cream. You might also use some Vetrycin spray on the area since it's bleeding and vent related to keep any chances at bacterial infection minimized. She might also benefit from some Poultry Cell just to keep her immune system well fueled. Poor Pepper, that looks miserable.Would Epsom salt water help Pepper to go poo? I had a chicken drink some while I was soaking her bumblefoot and she sure went.
She's been eating and drinking a lot this morning.
My friend I was talking to about the Marek’s vaccine said that she suspected she lost some of her birds to Marek’s. But they didn’t all get sick, but the ones that did had the signs of it being Marek’s. None of her chickens up to this point has the vaccine. I would say that it is still possible that maybe only a select few could get Marek’s. Granted I’m new to all of this and I never seen her birds.Well they said they "assumed" Mareks based on the presentation of the nodules and such but they did not confirm Mareks. "Most likely Mareks" was the phrase. So while it is probably likely, it surprises me how few birds I have lost to it--namely the silkies!
I'm leaning heavily towards something about the coop itself as well. I do have hardware cloth buried down a ways...could saturated soils cause zinc leakage from the underground hardware cloth? I do think it's possible it has something to do with the drainage in the soils...I just don't know how! The paint used on the coop may also have lead in it--I'm certain it was made in China.
So that is why for now, my solution will be to remove the coop so that area can more easily drain and building a better aboveground coop and exposing that soil to the sun and removing the hardware cloth. I am not sure I know where to go to have the blood tested for heavy metals--the RAL lab doesn't test for that and soil tests are really expensive. Blah! Thanks for all your thoughts, it's very helpful!
I have read that it will help. I hope it does for her. Poor thing!!!Would Epsom salt water help Pepper to go poo? I had a chicken drink some while I was soaking her bumblefoot and she sure went.
She's been eating and drinking a lot this morning.