I might have saved the site, not sure, but found out that wood pine shavings deplete the nitrogen from where you put it so don't use too much. I have composted for years, everything except grease and meat and processed foods. Hay actually decomposed rather quick compared to the shavings, maybe depends on where you live and the heat. The biggest problem was not at all the smell but the animals that loved to eat/sleep in there. I get grossed by snails and they really loved it PLUS SNAKES found it heaven in there. Everytime I'd go to stir it, snakes would come out of the holes or id have to wake them up to get them out...only garter snakes here. I actually like the garter snakes! Snails, uhg, grandmas fault (long story.)