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Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by key west chick, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. key west chick

    key west chick Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 31, 2008
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    if you cross a black frizzle nn and a white showgirl?
     
  2. walkswithdog

    walkswithdog Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Any of SEVERAL colors, usually black and partridge and something else, some frizzled, some NN, some both. You'd have to ask the geneticists what the percentages are for those.

    Black and white are masking colors. They hide the "true" color of the birds involved. So you can get practically every color of the rainbow, it's a total crap shoot.
     
  3. Goose and Fig

    Goose and Fig Grateful Geese

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    big black showgirls with a chance of frizzle?
     
  4. KatyTheChickenLady

    KatyTheChickenLady Bird of A Different Feather

    Dec 20, 2008
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    I think I heard them called Sizzles?
     
  5. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    No. Frizzled showgirls are not sizzles.

    Black X White is an unpredictable mess.

    Sizzles are being developed as a BREED; showgirls are being developed as a variety of silkie (much like bearded vs non-bearded or (in other breeds) rose vs single comb).
     
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  6. KatyTheChickenLady

    KatyTheChickenLady Bird of A Different Feather

    Dec 20, 2008
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    lol! my bad . . . I am glad there are people on here who know more than me! Why is white crossed with black a mess? Is that with any breed?
     
  7. walkswithdog

    walkswithdog Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Both white and black are not colors - they are masks the chicken is wearing, under the white or black is the actual color of the chicken - hidden by the black or white genes that are in charge. They're masking genes.

    A black chicken could be a partridge colored bird genetically, or anything else.

    A white chicken could be blue/quail/ or who knows behind there.

    So you take two totally UNKNOWABLE birds and combine them, you can get anything at all dependent on the genes "behind" them.

    Unfortunately chicken genetics aren't like crayons - smush blackand white together you don't get Gray. Red and Blue also don't make purple.
     
  8. monita

    monita Chillin' With My Peeps

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    well what do you get when you cross a standard RIR Roo with a B.B. Red banty hen? I have 10 of these eggs incubating and due to hatch 10/19/09.
     
  9. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Intermediate in size; I'd be guessing in variety (colour). Try the chicken calculator.

    I wouldn't say that black is necessarily a masking colour. Yes, if E/E, but you can make a black chicken on any E-allele. And a black chicken on e+ or e^b or even E^R can show patterns.
     
  10. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Quote:It's kind of like grabbing cans out of your pantry without looking at the labels and mixing them together when preparing dinner. The cans of green beans and corn may mix together reasonably well, but how about the green beans mixed with peaches? Or the tomato soup and cherry pie filling? How about pea cobbler?

    Crossing white to non-white is like grabbing a can without looking at the label.
     

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