What do you think about this punishment for bad grades?

[redhen]

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good question. Not knowing the whole situation, this does seem radical but I think the parents love him and have run out of options. Kid is stubborn. Take humilation over just doing his work.

That shrink can go play with the sharks....I'm tired of all the modly kodling of people. My dad never worried about hurting my feelings, now I worried about him hurtin my back end, tho....

LOL..very true!

 

[Momagain1]

ha...my brother and I would fight like the dickens..he'd clank our heads together...

but I have to say; my parents did fail. They failed in the fact that NONE of us kids went to college, we werent pushed
and you know what?? I have no clue that they cared..they didnt care about the schooling..I had NO clue I could go
to college and this was the late 80's!!! My parents, didnt push me in school, so this wouldnt have happened to me..
but at least she's TRYING SOMETHING..albeit not something I'd do...God Bless her for trying SOMETHING ELSE
after all else has failed...she could have walked away and gave up...

a lot of parents wouldnt try something else..my brother had a learning disability due to having a major
heart defect..he graduated 8th grade and that was it..dropped out in 9th...my parents let him..
they should have done what the school recommended; a tutor and special education during those 8
grades..they didnt..

so..just for the plain fact she didnt/isnt giving up...God bless her...
she just needs guidance on finding OTHER things...maybe this, will open the door to that!

 

[noodleroo]

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This was exactly what I thought; tutor. Maybe the mom just thinks he's being lazy and she's trying to embarass him into being 'not lazy'. That would never have worked with me...

 

[seedcorn]

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This was exactly what I thought; tutor. Maybe the mom just thinks he's being lazy and she's trying to embarass him into being 'not lazy'. That would never have worked with me...

Did you study? Did you answer more than 4 questions? These are parents that are at the end of the rope with a kid that refuses to try. Kid needs a taste of reality. Ship him off to Mexico vegetable fields, let him sweat, go hungry, sleep under the stars, might give him an attitude adjustment.

 

[noodleroo]

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This was exactly what I thought; tutor. Maybe the mom just thinks he's being lazy and she's trying to embarass him into being 'not lazy'. That would never have worked with me...

Did you study? Did you answer more than 4 questions? These are parents that are at the end of the rope with a kid that refuses to try. Kid needs a taste of reality. Ship him off to Mexico vegetable fields, let him sweat, go hungry, sleep under the stars, might give him an attitude adjustment.

Yep, I did study and would have answered all the questions. And I was consistant in things like that. I'll bet this child has been allowed to slide for years. That may be the only constant in his life. Expecting immediate, positive results from negative therapy is a little unrealistic. Maybe she should have shaved his head or made him wear a tu-tu to school while holding the sign- maybe she'll do that next week. I'm sure that would make him buckle right down and start spittin' out those 'A's.

If that doesn't work, then what?

Wouldn't it be a shame if his mom just found out that he has been pushed along all this time and has a learning disability like dyslexia? Or, he may just be lazy; I don't know. What I do know is; if your child is not making good grades, get them a tutor or tutor them yourself.

 

[redhen]

I just know, speaking of MYSELF....
NO way that i would have stood on a corner like that... nope. Even being dragged there by a parent,..nope... i would have fought and flipped off all the cars drivng by and just simply walked away...... just to embarress my mother more...
Stubborn... that would NOT have worked for me as a child...

Soo..i'd say hes a pretty darn GOOD kid to even STAY on that corner like that for his punishment.... feel kinda bad for him.

 

[TigerLilly]

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VERY good question...wonder how come the news people didn't ask her that?

 

[welsummerchicks]

That looks like a rough area of town. Parents have often told me, the schools can be so bad in some districts, that the teachers have given up all hope. Not just rough poor parts of town either.

I know it's easy to blame teachers all the time, but I can see their point of view. When a kid has a problem and doesn't seem, for some reason, to try in school, they may simply just keep passing him because they just are so overwhelmed with how bad the school is that they just give up.

A teacher without hope isn't necessarily a bad teacher. Sometimes it is the best of them that just get so fed up and discouraged. It is pretty terrible to take attendance and be told your student is not in class because he got shot and is dead. With the schools having so little money they get made to do things that they don't feel are right.

I think a lot of teachers come in hard charging and full of ideals how they will make a difference, and then they just get slammed in the face so many times they give up.

I think it's also easy to blame parents, but they get discouraged and overwhelmed too.

And the kids. They hear that they are stupid every day and there is no hope of a better life or even a long life, life is just randomly taken away, they react with hopelessness too.

So I think of it as more the situation.

And what if this kid has an undiagnosed dyslexia, or even, just an eyesight problem or hearing problem?

The worst most resistant, stubborn, 'I don't care' students that I went to school with, they had dyslexia. Years ago, no one seemed to have any idea what it was. A kid who couldn't read well was constantly told he was lazy, didn't care, wasn't trying.

I met a reading tutor the other day who told me, 'the kid the teachers hate and shove and me and say, 'here, you can have him!', that's the kid I want!!!!'

Furthermore she told me her approach to reading was heavily research based, and not only how they teach but in what order, and when I said I had learned phonetically and gave an example, she got very excited and intense and said, 'No no no! You're doing it wrong! Here, say it like this...'

She said she was given kids to tutor that were in their teens and could not read a word. She would have them reading within a couple minutes into their first tutoring session and they would walk out saying, 'I CAN read!' the very first session and that would change everything for them. Suddenly they just did not feel like losers any more.

Now there is a passionate caring teacher. And she was about sixty, I'd say. No spring chicken right out of college. But she also had knowledge that other teachers simply did not have. They are not taught these things in teaching courses in college either.

I just have a hope that some of these kids who have lost their enthusiasm for school for various reasons, just happen to meet someone like her.

 

[Britney]

I feel like so many posters take things so personal. I have avoided responding to so many threads because I feel like it may cause frustration or anger to someone. I did graduate college. But the thread wasn't about me. I really do not wish to participate in a thread that I feel at some point could be closed or locked. I have a job that I love to do and I feel that I am good at. Life is to short to get angry over another persons feelings or opinions, especially over how one chose or chooses to raise their children. Also we sometimes chose to bring our parents and how we were raised into the way that we raise our children. Let's all just get along and be happy. It is just a thread. I try not to pick at others and sometimes its not easy that is why I avoid postings in its attire. Love you all.

 

[Momagain1]

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My son, used to love school. He would get called upon to write on the board a problem in math that had the sum of XX..well he'd do it, but he was told that while it was right, it was too complex of a problem
for the other students to understand. He was told to dumb it down. So he did..and was told that year after year...
finally, he just didnt care anymore..his grades were falling, he was so bored in school..then
My son had severe anxiety in going to school; he was getting beat up physically by other students; when he wasnt physically assaulted; he was mentally. he then regressed in school and in his social life, teachers kept passing him even tho he had D's and F's, we tried to get a tutor; school wouldnt provide one and we couldnt afford one. We did everything the school asked of us, had an IEP, discipline plan etc..school didnt follow through with it..meeting after meeting after meeting..finally he was throwing up before school and as soon as he came home from school he cried himself to sleep at 315 pm in the afternoon; NOT a normal thing for a 12 yr old to do..
Finally a teacher called me and said "Your son is a waste of air and space in my classroom"..that was it..
we have homeschooled him this year...
maybe that is an option this mom needs to make?

a lot of teachers are burnt out..honestly teachers (most) dont make nearly what they should...but if they are burnt out or out of hope they need to step down..you dont keep passing kids, nor as in my sons case; do you demean him by your words...you get help...you ask the special education department to help,
you dont coddle the child at home; cell phones, cars etc are priveledges not RIGHTS..I keep telling my children that..and let me tell you, my son won an Ipod (the $350 one last yr) at a function at church as the main big prize...and I'll take it away in a second if he gets cocky with it or doesnt do his work..but thats just me..
(after having a 20 yr old who I royally screwed up with...I will never parent the same way again!)

the way this boy was looking down, his self esteem isnt high IMO..I can only say that because still to this day, my sons self esteem is almost nothing...even with his father and I round the clock trying to lift him up...its so hard to build it back up...I can guarantee you, that this teen will remember that moment for the rest of his life..