What Killed my hens(part 2...)

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by MonkeyZero, Aug 5, 2009.

  1. MonkeyZero

    MonkeyZero Songster

    Sep 14, 2007
    Modesto Ca
    Ok Since I am continuing from this thread


    I am following ddawn, and threehorses advice and making a new thread. SO Here it goes

    1) What type of bird , age and weight:

    2 brahmas(on banty, on standard), and RIR, and an OEGB. THe oegb was a chick, about 3 months old. THe RIR and Banty Brahma, about 4 months old. THe Standard Brahma, about 9 months

    2) What is the behavior, exactly.

    Generally what happened was, I went to feed the hens some food, then I saw my OEGB laying on its belly, screeching. I stood her up to see what was going on, however no help...she fell backdown. I tried giving her water, but she refused. I decided to keep her in a brooder, kept her warm and comfy. SHe died a few hours later. THen, 2 days later, the same thing happened to the RIR and the Brhama bantam. Then about 3 days later, my last hen died, from the same exact situation...

    3) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

    None, actually, just not able to use their legs

    4) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

    Well, before it happened, we fed them corn, but it was cooked, and I doubt that has somethng to do with it...

    5) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
    They were eating, before they started falling over, and not using their legs. But when they were down, they didnt eat/drink

    6) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

    I remember the OEGB vomiting a week before, thats all, normal poop

    7) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?

    None actually, it was tooo late

    8 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

    N/A, already gone

    9) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.


    10) Describe the housing/bedding in use
    None, we had a run and a simple coop. No bedding. Very messy, they'ed sleep on roosts.

    Hopefully that helps with my dilemma.
  2. MonkeyZero

    MonkeyZero Songster

    Sep 14, 2007
    Modesto Ca
    Oh yeah, FTM
    This occurred over a year ago, but I wanna be safe with my chickens
  3. MonkeyZero

    MonkeyZero Songster

    Sep 14, 2007
    Modesto Ca
    Could I use potting soil to help? I can throw some in random places.
  4. I'm going to go with cocci on this. You don't have to see blood in the poop. With the deaths being so quick, and each of them dying the same way, that would be my guess.

    Treating with Corid would eliminate the problem. Cocci is in all soil, and the birds typically develop a resistance to most strains. Some strains being more difficult to treat than others. Cocci will kill the difficult strains as well, and help keep ya flock healthy.

    If you hadn't wormed them, that could have been the cause, though I'm doubting it. Worms usually starve out a chicken versus the quick deaths you dealt with.

    I'm sorry for your losses, and hope you'll try raising chickens again.
  5. CheerfulHeart2

    CheerfulHeart2 Creative Problem Solver

    Apr 8, 2009
    Phoenix, AZ
    MonkeyZero, I am so sad for you loss. Such a sad story. My heart goes out to you and I hope you soon have much happier chicken stories to share.
  6. MonkeyZero

    MonkeyZero Songster

    Sep 14, 2007
    Modesto Ca
    The silkie pair im getting are coming direct from the feed store guy's home. hes a breeder. do you think theyll be ok? its been almost a yr. do i need to disinfect? a vet tech in training told me it not necassry. 2nd opinions?
  7. MonkeyZero

    MonkeyZero Songster

    Sep 14, 2007
    Modesto Ca
    After some reasearch, I got some partial answers

    I read that AVC, can help prevent cocci
    I also read that Medicated feed is good in prevention, too!

    Now the silkies I may get, are 3 months, but the feed store breeder and take a good guess with genders.
    Is it safe to release them into the run immedialty, or can I keep them in a cage and let them free range during the day when I am in the yard?
  8. I wouldn't release them immediately. Afterall, it's a new home, and they don't know where that home is. Keep them penned in the coop and run for a few weeks until they learn that they indeed do have a new home. Then, I let mine out an hour or so before dark so they learned to return to the coop at night. Now no matter what time of day I let them out, they always show up to go in the coop when it starts getting dark.

    Best of luck to you and your new flock!

    I-LOVE-INCUBATORS In the Brooder

    Aug 6, 2009
    nvm ur problem i cant help did u try to get a vet out there to take a look at them mabey somthing happen to them at birth ive had that happen it was becuase my eggs got to cold one day i was lucky half of them still had a hart beat well u have to give them time say how old r they anyways my chicks have to be 4-5 weeks before they had there first egg sooo let them settle in wen they want to lay eggs they will or get a vet or somthing out there just hope the little babys are ok.
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2009
  10. MonkeyZero

    MonkeyZero Songster

    Sep 14, 2007
    Modesto Ca
    Actually, I think it is cocci. I highly doubt its all genetics. I mean 4 different hens, same genetics make-up. I doubt it

    I have a MASSIVE rabbit cage. Can I keep them in there, inside my house/ garage for a few days?

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