What kind of goats are these?

[ShashwatAcres]

To me they look like they are NigerianxPygmy Cross I do not not think they are one certain breed only because the Nigerian is a milk breed and the Pygmy is more meaty.THe only reason I am saying this is these guys have the Nigerian build overall but they seem to have more of a wider chest more towards the Pygmy.Again this is just my guess to as what theses cuties Might be, hope it might be of some help to you .Theses guys look like they would make a good dual purpose goat

 

[kuntrygirl]

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The brown one is the kind that has a BAD worm infestation and needs to be treated ASAP

The hollow area in front of her hips shows she's losing weight

Notice the bulge beneath her lower jaw?
That's "bottlejaw" and is a sign of anemia, caused by Barber Pole Worms.

Check her inner eyelids and you'll find they are either white or very pale.

She's also keeping here eyes half closed

I appreciate you posting that information in reference to what an owner will recognize as a worm infestation in a goat. I never knew that, so I learned something new. It's great to learn!

 

[Avalon1984]

I agree. Thank you Bare foot farm. I would have never been able to tell a sickness. Not a goat person, but so good to know if I ever become one

 

[Yoda]

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Your original question had already been answered.
But don't worry.
If you post another picture of a goat showing symptoms of illness, I'll be "polite" and not say a word

Wouldn't it sound a little nicer had you stated "they are a pigmy cross, the brown ones looks like it might have worms so I would use safeguard or something to treat him ASAP" doesn't that sound better then "The brown one is the "kind" that has a BAD worm infestation and needs to be treated ASAP" ? How would you feel if I said you have that "kind" of goat and used those words? I turned to the goat pros here and if you are one of them, you should read what was wrote as if it was wrote to you. Do I appriciate the advise - yes I do! It was the way it was written that upset me. Both goats are very very fat today and keep eating the bark off my plum tree and apple tree.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Wouldn't it sound a little nicer had you stated "they are a pigmy cross, the brown ones looks like it might have worms so I would use safeguard or something to treat him ASAP" doesn't that sound better then

"The brown one is the "kind" that has a BAD worm infestation and needs to be treated ASAP" ?

How would you feel if I said you have that "kind" of goat and used those words? I turned to the goat pros here and if you are one of them, you should read what was wrote as if it was wrote to you. Do I appriciate the advise - yes I do! It was the way it was written that upset me. Both goats are very very fat today and keep eating the bark off my plum tree and apple tree.

I wouldn't care how you said it if I didn't recognize that my animal was sick.
By the time they show that symptom, they are nearing death.

Sugar coating won't make the facts any different.
I "could" have said "it looks like it might have worms", but that doesn't sound nearly as serious as the actual condition.

I could have just said "What pretty goats" and you'd have been happy, but still would have a goat on death's door.​

 

[Kadjain]

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Nope. They look pure Nigerian to me. Dwarf's and Pygmy's both come from the same lineage, the Cameroon Dwarf goat of Africa. One, the Nig. was selectively bred for dairy the other, the Pygmy for meat.
Here are two of my pure Nigerians who look a little Pygmy but are not.

 

[pinkfoxfarm]

im sorry barefoot but i would take offence if approached that way and quite honestly most people simply shut down/ignore postings and"advice" given in such a manner....
more flys with honey than vinegar being a good line here...

without knowing any facts on these goats you assumed the OP had not had them checked by a vet ect and assumed they neded a verbal reaming to get the point across...

a simple, "from that picture id say the brown one has a serious case of pole worm and if it hasnt already it needs to see a vet as its life threatening" would have been a million times more effective.
im sure you didnt mean for your post to come across as belittling or mean, BUT that is how it reads.

for example, i picked up 2, 4 week old puppy up off the side of the road not too long back...
he was covered in fleas, and had a belly full of worms...no signs of tape, and given the bloating i knew it was either hook, whip or round (and probably a combination)
his brother had a 3 inch open wound (umbilicle hernia) and was in serious condition
i was a vet tech and i immediatly took them to the vet...no sooner did i walk through the door that one of the techs began belittling me, screaming at me for the condition of the pups, "omg they have serious fleas" and "why havent you dewormed them" and this is this and that is that and they need need need...she treated me like i was a peice of poop stuck to her shoe...NO information on the history of the pups, no idea who i am (never been to that vet before as im new to the area) and instead of taking a breath and finding out exactly what the situation was, she decided to scream at me to the point i was close to tears (i have social anxiety disorder)...and i simply walked out and took them to another vet on the opposite side of town.
had she taken a moment to find out the information BEFORE spouting off her vast aount of knowedge she would have known i found them aproximatly 15 minutes prior, rescued them from the highway and have a veterinayry medicine background and thats WHY i acted so quickly at getting them to a vet.

she lost my respect for her and my business for the surgery simply because she ASSUMED...
you did the same with that post, you assumed as to what the op had and hadnt done and aproached it in a rather visious way.

yes its serious...but stating "its a life threatening condition" is also a good way to get across that this isnt something to just "see what happens"
people tend to listen better, read through an enitre post more frequently and listen when aproached in a respectfull way...
treating me like a 5 year old without a clue isnt going to make me continue reading, and most will just skim over a post that starts that way...
we have to rememer that this is a faceless internet forum and TONE is not easily conveyed...what im sure was meant to convey concern and urgency to me instead came across belittling and angry...

 

[Stacykins]

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Barberpole worms are serious and not to be taken lightly. They kill many goats. I don't think what BEAR FOOT (not Barefoot) said was belittling at all. Instead, merely got across the gravity of the situation. I'd definitely want someone to let me know IMMEDIATELY if an animal I had looked like it had a serious medical problem that I did not know about.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Your original question had already been answered.
But don't worry.
If you post another picture of a goat showing symptoms of illness, I'll be "polite" and not say a word

It doesn't have to be either answer in the way you did or no answer at all. As others have pointed out, the information was very useful (I am happy myself to have that knowledge now, in case I ever get goats), the tone just needed rethinking to get that useful information across instead of insult. The flow of knowledge goes both ways.

 

[carolinagirl58]

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yep...I agree completely. When a goat gets parasites, they can go down hill FAST!!! Any time a goat has worms to the point that you can SEE symptoms, it is life threatening. I think it's really petty to be nit-picking exactly how Bearfoot worded his reply. Be grateful for the advise from someone who is very educated in this field and don't be so sensitive to how things are worded.