What other birds do you process?

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Well, since I think this is on topic, I'll answer here to the best of my knowledge.

The best meat breed is a cross. Californian sire, New Zealand white dam. NZs are good mothers, Californian's not so much. The cross produces a very fast growing, very meaty fryer (butchered young @ 5 lbs, tender). An operation of keeping this cross going is a bit too much for the home meat producer, though. It might not sound like it but there is a lot to consider and a bit of juggling to do to keep a productive herd going. Too much for me.

So, instead of running a rabbitry like a commercial operation, many people are looking towards the heritage breeds that are now rare because they fell out of favor when the commercial cross took the lead for their very usable white pelts. Those heritage breeds are many. Others can be a little more plentiful. Just look on the American Rabbit Breeders Association's breed page. http://www.arba.net/Breeds.htm Anything that has a "commercial body type" or is big and meaty looking is a meat breed.

American, American Chinchilla, American Sable, Beveren, Blanc de Hotot, Californian, Champagne d' Argent, Cinnamon, Creme d' Argent, New Zealand, Palomino, Silver Fox are all commercially typed within a general weight range but they are not the only meat rabbits. Flemish Giants and Giant Chinchillas are also used for meat. The Angora breeds (English, French, Satin, Giant) give angora wool (think luxurious sweaters) but they have a meat rabbit body underneath all that wool. They are dual purpose. Then there is the Dutch - a "small" rabbit but what a dress out weight. The old 1940's publication of "Raising Poultry and Rabbit on Scraps" that has been brought into publication again, just recently, states that the Dutch is used for crossing with larger breeds (like the Flemish Giant) to increase dress out rate. Impressive for a little guy.

Speaking of little guys....the Netherland Dwarf, Holland Lop, and Mini Lop I've been told by friends are amazingly meaty for their size. I recently processed some minuscule Polish rabbits (one of the smallest breeds their is) and was shocked at how much meat they had on them. Two of them fed my family of 6 and wonderful meal ("fried" baked rabbit, mixed veggies, and mashed potatoes).

So, um, to get around to answering your questions.....*blush*.......The d'Argente breeds are said to have the best dress out weights "hands down" next to the American Chinchilla. This from the mouth of the woman to created the "Humane Rabbit Slaughter For Home Use" DVD for the Rabbit Industry Council when I asked her at a show early this year. Of course, everyone has their favorite breed and I think that good advice is to get what is eye pleasing to you and fits into your goals.

More info: dwarf and small breeds mature faster sexually (breed at 6 months) but grow to a good weight much slower. Large breeds sexually mature more slowly (breed at 9 - 12+ months) but grow (and eat) like crazy. The larger breeds reach processing weight (5lbs) somewhere between 9 - 12 weeks of age (or so you hope).

Litter sizes are much smaller for dwarf rabbits (1 - 4 kits for JWs) but can be large for large breeds (9 - 12 kits). Then there are those Dutch. My son bred them for a time. They consistently gave us 6 - 7 kits per litter and weaned themselves at 6 wks rather than the 8 wks that our Jersey Woolies and Polish do. In other words, they developed fast like a meat breed does.

Another thing to consider.....I see you have snakes. The size of a newborn dwarf kit is about he size of a full grown mouse. The size of a kit of a large or giant breed would be more like a rat. Just sayin'.

Well, that's probably more info than you bargained for. I don't want to take up any more space here. If you have any questions you can send me a message (unless the OP wants more).
 
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Well, since I think this is on topic, I'll answer here to the best of my knowledge.

The best meat breed is a cross. Californian sire, New Zealand white dam. NZs are good mothers, Californian's not so much. The cross produces a very fast growing, very meaty fryer (butchered young @ 5 lbs, tender). An operation of keeping this cross going is a bit too much for the home meat producer, though. It might not sound like it but there is a lot to consider and a bit of juggling to do to keep a productive herd going. Too much for me.

So, instead of running a rabbitry like a commercial operation, many people are looking towards the heritage breeds that are now rare because they fell out of favor when the commercial cross took the lead for their very usable white pelts. Those heritage breeds are many. Others can be a little more plentiful. Just look on the American Rabbit Breeders Association's breed page. http://www.arba.net/Breeds.htm Anything that has a "commercial body type" or is big and meaty looking is a meat breed.

American, American Chinchilla, American Sable, Beveren, Blanc de Hotot, Californian, Champagne d' Argent, Cinnamon, Creme d' Argent, New Zealand, Palomino, Silver Fox are all commercially typed within a general weight range but they are not the only meat rabbits. Flemish Giants and Giant Chinchillas are also used for meat. The Angora breeds (English, French, Satin, Giant) give angora wool (think luxurious sweaters) but they have a meat rabbit body underneath all that wool. They are dual purpose. Then there is the Dutch - a "small" rabbit but what a dress out weight. The old 1940's publication of "Raising Poultry and Rabbit on Scraps" that has been brought into publication again, just recently, states that the Dutch is used for crossing with larger breeds (like the Flemish Giant) to increase dress out rate. Impressive for a little guy.

Speaking of little guys....the Netherland Dwarf, Holland Lop, and Mini Lop I've been told by friends are amazingly meaty for their size. I recently processed some minuscule Polish rabbits (one of the smallest breeds their is) and was shocked at how much meat they had on them. Two of them fed my family of 6 and wonderful meal ("fried" baked rabbit, mixed veggies, and mashed potatoes).

So, um, to get around to answering your questions.....*blush*.......The d'Argente breeds are said to have the best dress out weights "hands down" next to the American Chinchilla. This from the mouth of the woman to created the "Humane Rabbit Slaughter For Home Use" DVD for the Rabbit Industry Council when I asked her at a show early this year. Of course, everyone has their favorite breed and I think that good advice is to get what is eye pleasing to you and fits into your goals.

More info: dwarf and small breeds mature faster sexually (breed at 6 months) but grow to a good weight much slower. Large breeds sexually mature more slowly (breed at 9 - 12+ months) but grow (and eat) like crazy. The larger breeds reach processing weight (5lbs) somewhere between 9 - 12 weeks of age (or so you hope).

Litter sizes are much smaller for dwarf rabbits (1 - 4 kits for JWs) but can be large for large breeds (9 - 12 kits). Then there are those Dutch. My son bred them for a time. They consistently gave us 6 - 7 kits per litter and weaned themselves at 6 wks rather than the 8 wks that our Jersey Woolies and Polish do. In other words, they developed fast like a meat breed does.

Another thing to consider.....I see you have snakes. The size of a newborn dwarf kit is about he size of a full grown mouse. The size of a kit of a large or giant breed would be more like a rat. Just sayin'.

Well, that's probably more info than you bargained for. I don't want to take up any more space here. If you have any questions you can send me a message (unless the OP wants more).

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Thank you very much for all that info. I have been looking into breeding rabbits for quite awhile. Mostly to have a homegrown source of food for my snakes. Most of them are eating rat sized prey so it would be perfect. And now, I realize they are edible to humans too! Would a trio be best (1 Buck and 2 Does)?
 
Yes, a trio is the most common starting point. I would not recommend more to start with.

You're lucky that you are in So. CA. KW cages is in Santee. They deliver to shows they attend for free if you order two weeks in advance. Buy two 3 hole stacker with trays appropriately sized for your breed (they can tell you what size you need for your purposes). One hole will be for your buck, two holes for your breeding does, 2 holes for growing out litters, and one extra for growing out replacements for your adults.

If you're looking for snake food and home use for yourself (domestic rabbit is delicious!) and if your family is very small, I'd go for a small -medium sized breed. Something under the 9 - 12lb mark. Remember, you're going to have to feed them whether they're on a litter or not (or your herd buck is just sitting there) so keep that in mind. If you're wanting to produce a lot then go for the meat breeds (9-12 pounders). I think anything bigger than that is just wasting money on feed.

Browse the ARBA breed page, click on the breed photos to be linked to that breed's national breed club. See if they have a breeders/members list to find a breeder near you. Contact the breed club secretary if you need help finding someone. That is part of their job. Or, depending on what breed you want, and where you are located, I can recommend someone.

I was going to suggest you take a look at a certain Whizbang thread here on BYC but me thinks you've already seen it.
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Good humor about rabbits. If anyone wants to see home beautiful butchered rabbit, here it is: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=381507&p=1

http://www.kwcages.com/
 
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