Wheaton ameruacana chicks ALL BOYS!? :,(

[bruceha2000]

I called them again and they are adamant that I have females. I went to another place and they also said give it a few more weeks because they are not seeing them as roosters at this point. I guess now, I just wait.

Pictures?

 

[ourrune]

I called them again and they are adamant that I have females. I went to another place and they also said give it a few more weeks because they are not seeing them as roosters at this point. I guess now, I just wait.

What do they look like? What color type were they supposed to be? Wheaton? Blue Wheaton? Or something else? I just gave all four of mine away to a couple of guys with a bigger yard and farm so they will have it good there possibly. Mine had black feathers on the chest which ppl more experienced than me say since they’re supposed to be Wheaton is a sure sign it’s a boy. They all fought and their wings were very dark through out. They def we’re taking on a Wheaton rooster look.

 

[ourrune]

TSC is a huge chain that buys from the BIG hatcheries. Think Privett, Ideal, Hoover's, Welp... They don't buy from a backyard breeder.

Now, whether your seller had weeded through their chicks to unload early-showing males is another thing altogether. I wouldn't presume so with such a small order and the young age you got them. But if you feel like they're shady, then by all means go elsewhere.

Thanks for reading and replying. Is it good to buy from tractor supply or would it be better to buy from the backyard seller? It’s probably just me being paranoid then lol I tend to do that at times. Maybe I’ll buy a couple from each? I’ve had a lot of good experience with backyard sellers and have never bought from a chain personally.

 

[ourrune]

Both The offspring get 1 egg color gene from each parent. If both parents have 2 blue genes, ALL the chicks will have 2, all the females will lay blue. You can work out the grid but the "low percentage" is when 1 parent has no blue genes and the other has 1. No offspring will lay blue and 25% will lay green. On average of course, no telling which gene each parent will pass on to each egg. The only way to tell if a rooster has 2 blues is through a lot of breeding to see what his female offspring lay.

Thank you for replying with that info!!! I’ve asked before that topic doesn’t get much attention. I appreciate your time on that subject!! It helps! I didn’t think it could come from both

 

[ourrune]

Oh I had one more question. Do you know if a Wheaton amerucana is showing a little black on their wings at one week or whenever does that automatically mean they’re male?

 

[bruceha2000]

Is it good to buy from tractor supply or would it be better to buy from the backyard seller?

Unless the "breed" is auto sexing or sex linked I wouldn't trust any backyard breeder to know a male from female chick at an early age. You would need to wait until they are much older. Big hatcheries have "sexers" who are trained in vent sexing. Even they only guarantee 90% accuracy. IF a farm store only orders females from the big hatcheries, your odds of each chick being female is still only 90%. If they get sexed chicks your odds go down. They may get them in sexed boxes and put them in sexed "bins" but no guarantee that someone, even a store employee, might not pick up a male and accidentally put it in the pullet bin.

There is a thread all about Ameraucanas, I would ask about specific colors and what may or may not suggest males over there. I have no idea.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ting-pictures-and-discussing-our-birds.260313

 

[ourrune]

Well all the way and I went to buy chicks from the tractor supply and him and he lead me to believe he just had a batch hatch when I spoke with him this morning. The store had none and when I got to his place he ends up telling me the batch didn’t hatch yet- tomorrow- but he had left overs from last batch. Ugh! I drove 2 hours from the one day olds because I know even if it’s possible to sex by feathers they’re supposed to be one day old and that is what he’s telling me he was sexing from but he compared feathers in front of me with one week old chicks.

And all these chicks have black in their wings. Does this mean they are all males? Aren’t the Wheaton’s supposed to be all yellow and brown? I can’t find any photos or anything online to help.

I would have waited for tractor supply to get their batch of amerucanas in if I knew that. I’m cant drive another 4 hours all together I’ll die! Lol but he said he gave me guesses on girls and one extra boy

I know it’s early but I’m curious does the black mean they’re boys?

 

[keesmom]

Well all the way and I went to buy chicks from the tractor supply and him and he lead me to believe he just had a batch hatch when I spoke with him this morning. The store had none and when I got to his place he ends up telling me the batch didn’t hatch yet- tomorrow- but he had left overs from last batch. Ugh! I drove 2 hours from the one day olds because I know even if it’s possible to sex by feathers they’re supposed to be one day old and that is what he’s telling me he was sexing from but he compared feathers in front of me with one week old chicks.

And all these chicks have black in their wings. Does this mean they are all males? Aren’t the Wheaton’s supposed to be all yellow and brown? I can’t find any photos or anything online to help.

I would have waited for tractor supply to get their batch of amerucanas in if I knew that. I’m cant drive another 4 hours all together I’ll die! Lol but he said he gave me guesses on girls and one extra boy

I know it’s early but I’m curious does the black mean they’re boys?

Well, for one thing most breeds cannot be feather sexed. Only certain strains or specifically bred hybrids can be feather sexed at hatch.

Next, no hatchery has wheaten Ameraucanas. Cackle has the largest selection but no wheatens. And those they do have cost $8-15 straight run. Do you know where these chicks came from?

 

[ourrune]

Hello thanks for your reply and help!!
I met him from Craigslist and he said in his ad
“Holcombe, Smith, and Blehm bloodline quality blue egg laying Ameraucanas not easter eggers like some people advertise on here for sale. The Wheaten chics are $5 each. All chics are straight run. These are some of the best egg laying chickens to be had. I usually get 75% hen to rooster ratio.”

(Not trying to bad mouth him or call him out just trying to figure out more about this color and type of little chicks.)
I actually said to him I thought feather sexing was for certain breeds and he said he was told that this breed was it from apparently some guy that came to buy some so doesn’t mean it’s accurate but he gave me chicks based on what would have been consider pullet by that method.
When my last batch started getting older I saw the beard and puffy face coming in a bit but the only part Wheaton looking anymore was the head. I’ve hatched a batch of EEs these don’t look like the typical EE And I did see one Wheaton running around his yard. However He also has blacks so I wonder if they’re interbreeding and that’s why they’re coming out blackish but I don’t know why he wouldn’t just tell the truth I just want an amerucana I’m not THAT concerned with color. Last batch I got from him, their legs turned slate like they’re supposed to not green.
But this new batch I got had some black dots on their heads? That wouldn’t be normal right? I would ask him if they’re mixed but I don’t think he wants to talk to me anymore lol I already asked a lot of questions.

I saw cackle but it’s at least $90 just to get 3 which may end up boys so I ended up just going through this guy again. But would be nice to know what kind of chicks I have lol one in my last batch had a pullet looking tail but he confirmed it was male so I got rid of it.

Sorry so long but thanks so much for your help!!

 

[debid]

Nobody gets a 75% hen to rooster ratio. That defies the laws of nature. So, right there you know the guy isn't shooting straight.

Wheaten chicks SHOULD feather in dramatically different for male vs. female. Like this: https://goo.gl/images/GZnrch

How early you can see the difference is the question. I don't know. I know that it ISN'T visible on day olds and it is when they have chest feathers. But at what exact point your breeder can tell,

If he's only selling males but claiming they're straight run, the new batch will tell the tale in a couple weeks. Did you get a good look at a large number of chicks in a brooder or was it a few he'd already selected for you?