I may have spoiled mine. I made them a real short roost when I brought them home at a week old they got up it around two weeks. I was proud of them. it was like 2" off the litter but it was cute. now they're going on 8 weeks and sound like babies while getting a spot picked out. I have a roost at 18 or 20" the same height as the nesting box landing. they seem to prefer to sit on the ledge of the landing. no biggie but a bit more clean up near the boxs.