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When to isolate?

Nanadd

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Dec 25, 2022
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I have very little experience with chi hens. The issue I am having today is I have a 3 year old Speckled Sussex hen who I found with bright green poop, her behind was dirty from loose stool, she has a pale comb, and she had separated herself from the rest of the flock. Her crop feels normal. She just presented with theses issues today. I gave her some poultry cell but have not observed her eat or drink today. She did not want scrambled eggs or meal worms which are her favorite. I am not sure what is wrong with her or how to treat. I have isolated her but am not sure that is what I should be doing. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 

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Isolating her now is good so she can rest. Clean her backside.

Do you know when she last laid an egg? Has she been eating a lot of greens or grass that you know of?
 
I have very little experience with chi hens. The issue I am having today is I have a 3 year old Speckled Sussex hen who I found with bright green poop, her behind was dirty from loose stool, she has a pale comb, and she had separated herself from the rest of the flock. Her crop feels normal. She just presented with theses issues today. I gave her some poultry cell but have not observed her eat or drink today. She did not want scrambled eggs or meal worms which are her favorite. I am not sure what is wrong with her or how to treat. I have isolated her but am not sure that is what I should be doing. Any help is greatly appreciated.
If she already separated herself then yes taking her away from the flock is the right call. It means either the rest of the flock knows there's something wrong with her and they're treating her differently. Possibly keeping her away from the food and water. Or that she's feeling badly enough that she is protecting them from catching what she has by isolating herself.


Chickens fake being fine as long as they can because they're prey animals, if they're not ok to the point their flock mates noticed they'll be excluded from the flock for everyone elses safety.
 
Feel her breastbone, or keel. Is it sharp and pointed, indicating she is very underweight? Sometimes green poop can indicate starvation. If this is the case, offer her some of her regular commercial feed soaked in warm water to make it the consistency of cooked oatmeal or gruel. This should help keep her hydrated if she will take it. Feel her crop first thing in the morning before she has a chance to eat or drink to see if it emptied overnight, if not, report back here to let us know how it feels. Is there an odor from her mouth? Is there a fullness to her belly in front of her vent to indicate possibly a retained egg?
 
Isolating her now is good so she can rest. Clean her backside.

Do you know when she last laid an egg? Has she been eating a lot of greens or grass that you know of?
I’m not positive when she laid her last egg but I do know it had been more than 4 or 5 days. She hasn’t had any grass or greens. I let the flock out to free range yesterday and she did not go out with them. I made a note of it because that is not normal behavior for her.
 
If she already separated herself then yes taking her away from the flock is the right call. It means either the rest of the flock knows there's something wrong with her and they're treating her differently. Possibly keeping her away from the food and water. Or that she's feeling badly enough that she is protecting them from catching what she has by isolating herself.


Chickens fake being fine as long as they can because they're prey animals, if they're not ok to the point their flock mates noticed they'll be excluded from the flock for everyone elses safety.
Thank you! I usually second guess myself when it comes to doing anything that is not their usual. I have read in a bunch of places that separate and isolate is the way to go when an illness is suspected but confirmation always helps me become a little better caretaker. I really enjoy the ladies and want to do right by them.
 
Feel her breastbone, or keel. Is it sharp and pointed, indicating she is very underweight? Sometimes green poop can indicate starvation. If this is the case, offer her some of her regular commercial feed soaked in warm water to make it the consistency of cooked oatmeal or gruel. This should help keep her hydrated if she will take it. Feel her crop first thing in the morning before she has a chance to eat or drink to see if it emptied overnight, if not, report back here to let us know how it feels. Is there an odor from her mouth? Is there a fullness to her belly in front of her vent to indicate possibly a retained egg?
Thank you for your help. I made a note to keep an eye on her last night when she didn’t come running out for free range time. She stayed inside the coop which again is not normal for her. I found her far away from everyone else in a corner kinda sheltered part of the chicken run today. She was very easy to catch which unless she “squats” is not usually the case with her. I don’t believe she has an egg that is stuck. Her belly felt fine but her breastbone was sharper than normal and she does feel lighter. I will check the crop in the morning and let you know what else I can observe.
 
I have very little experience with chi hens. The issue I am having today is I have a 3 year old Speckled Sussex hen who I found with bright green poop, her behind was dirty from loose stool, she has a pale comb, and she had separated herself from the rest of the flock. Her crop feels normal. She just presented with theses issues today. I gave her some poultry cell but have not observed her eat or drink today. She did not want scrambled eggs or meal worms which are her favorite. I am not sure what is wrong with her or how to treat. I have isolated her but am not sure that is what I should be doing. Any help is greatly appreciated.

I’m not positive when she laid her last egg but I do know it had been more than 4 or 5 days. She hasn’t had any grass or greens. I let the flock out to free range yesterday and she did not go out with them. I made a note of it because that is not normal behavior for her.

Thank you for your help. I made a note to keep an eye on her last night when she didn’t come running out for free range time. She stayed inside the coop which again is not normal for her. I found her far away from everyone else in a corner kinda sheltered part of the chicken run today. She was very easy to catch which unless she “squats” is not usually the case with her. I don’t believe she has an egg that is stuck. Her belly felt fine but her breastbone was sharper than normal and she does feel lighter. I will check the crop in the morning and let you know what else I can observe.
I would get some Calcium into her now, then once daily for 3-5days.

You can find Calcium Citrate+D3 at Walmart, CVS, etc. Just pop the tablet right into the beak and let her swallow.

Work on getting her hydrated, then offer wet mushy feed to eat.

When was she last dewormed?

What I have circled in the photo, was that a solid rubbery piece of something or ?
Photos of her overnight droppings would be good.
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Thank you for your help. I made a note to keep an eye on her last night when she didn’t come running out for free range time. She stayed inside the coop which again is not normal for her. I found her far away from everyone else in a corner kinda sheltered part of the chicken run today. She was very easy to catch which unless she “squats” is not usually the case with her. I don’t believe she has an egg that is stuck. Her belly felt fine but her breastbone was sharper than normal and she does feel lighter. I will check the crop in the morning and let you know what else I can observe.
Her breastbone is sharp. Her crop feels doughy
Thank you for your help. I made a note to keep an eye on her last night when she didn’t come running out for free range time. She stayed inside the coop which again is not normal for her. I found her far away from everyone else in a corner kinda sheltered part of the chicken run today. She was very easy to catch which unless she “squats” is not usually the case with her. I don’t believe she has an egg that is stuck. Her belly felt fine but her breastbone was sharper than normal and she does feel lighter. I will check the crop in the morning and let you know what else I can observe.
her breastbone is sharp. Her crop feels doughy or kinda like there’s sand in it.
I would get some Calcium into her now, then once daily for 3-5days.

You can find Calcium Citrate+D3 at Walmart, CVS, etc. Just pop the tablet right into the beak and let her swallow.

Work on getting her hydrated, then offer wet mushy feed to eat.

When was she last dewormed?

What I have circled in the photo, was that a solid rubbery piece of something or ?
Photos of her overnight droppings would be good.
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I would get some Calcium into her now, then once daily for 3-5days.

You can find Calcium Citrate+D3 at Walmart, CVS, etc. Just pop the tablet right into the beak and let her swallow.

Work on getting her hydrated, then offer wet mushy feed to eat.

When was she last dewormed?

What I have circled in the photo, was that a solid rubbery piece of something or ?
Photos of her overnight droppings would be good.
View attachment 3923488
I dewormed them last November. By the look of her poop from last night (I didn’t get a picture because it soaked into the pine chips) but it was the same green only more foamy. She got washed up today again and then pooped slimy yellow green. I gave her some nutridrench and decided to start safeguard dewormer. She iis about 4 lbs so I gave her a little less than 1cc. I have her some very watery mash and she did take a few bites so I think that’s good. Should I still give her the calcium if she has gotten nutridrench also?
 
Her breastbone is sharp. Her crop feels doughy

I gave her some nutridrench and decided to start safeguard dewormer. She iis about 4 lbs so I gave her a little less than 1cc. I have her some very watery mash and she did take a few bites so I think that’s good. Should I still give her the calcium if she has gotten nutridrench also?
Safeguard liquid goat dewormer dose is 0.23ml per pound of weight given orally once daily for 5 days in a row. So rounding up to 1ml would be fine.

Yes, I would give her extra Calcium if she's not laid an egg. PND is fine to give as well (PND direct dose is 1cc per 3pounds of weight given orally once daily).

Her crop is doughy, re-check it first thing, if it's not emptied, then I'd begin addressing that symptom. https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/
 

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