where to get dewormer (Or what to ask for?)

[gottsegnet]

I need to deworm my chickens. I have one I'm pretty sure is not going to make it if I don't hurry. But I can't find anywhere that has any. The feed store doesn't have anything and the vet says he doesn't have anything for poultry.

I'm wondering....I'm in farm country. There are a gazillion animals I'm sure are dewormed regularly and our vet has a refrigerator full of meds that farmers come and select from and pay for at the front.

Surely there has to be something in there that, at the right dosage, would deworm my flock without de-chickening them as well?

 

[joebryant]

Here's a Word document that I made when I asked the same question.
You can buy the Wazine at Tractor Supply. You'll have to order the Valbazen on line.
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WORMING CHICKENS

Joebryant BYC
I haven't seen any worms, but I want to treat my chickens for them anyway because I don't really know what to look for.

What is the easiest way to do it to be sure that I get rid of the most common types of worms? Is there a product that I can just add to their water for a couple of days?
Dawg53 on BYC
Are your chickens acting lethargic....not eating or drinking,not laying? These are common signs of possible worms. If your chickens are over 1 year old, never been wormed and free range...I agree they should be wormed. First worming, I would start with wazine17. Just follow the directions on the label. Toss eggs in the garbage for 2 weeks. Then in 10 days, reworm with a different wormer.
joebryant
BIG THANKS, dawg53, that's exactly what I was looking for. It can't get much simpler than what the directions say that I found when Googling:
ETA You said, "...Then in 10 days, reworm with a different wormer." What do you recommend that I should use after ten days?

http://www.drugs.com/vet/wazine-17.html
"For best results, remove water in the evening (except during hot weather). Then, early the next morning, begin water medicated with Wazine-17. Provide medicated water only, distributed in waterers sufficient in number so that all birds or animals have access to water. The medicated water should be consumed in 1 day or less. Worming every 30 days is necessary to break the large roundworm life cycle.

TURKEYS - Under 12 weeks of age: for each 100 birds, use 2 fluid ounces (60 ml) of Wazine-17 in 2 U.S. gallons (7.6 liters) of drinking water.

Over 12 weeks of age: for each 100 birds, use 4 fluid ounces (120 ml) of Wazine-17 in 4 U.S. gallons (15 liters) of drinking water.

Worm turkeys at 4-6 weeks of age and thereafter at 30 days, or as needed.

CHICKENS - 4 to 6 weeks of age: for each 100 birds, use 1 fluid ounce (30 ml) of Wazine-17 in 1 U.S. gallon (3.8 liters) of drinking water.

Over 6 weeks of age: for each 100 birds, use 2 fluid ounces (60 ml) of Wazine-17 in 2 U.S. gallons (7.6 liters) of drinking water.

Treat broilers at 4 weeks of age and thereafter at 30 days, or as needed. Treat replacement pullets at 8, 12, and 16 weeks of age."


Dawg53
On the 10th day after using wazine. I recommend a second type of wormer...you have the choice of the following: Ivermectin, Safeguard or Valbazen. All are off label wormers for horses,cattle or sheep, but can be given to chickens in smaller quantity, it's a matter of giving the correct dosage. I prefer Valbazen...it'll kill just about every kind of worm there is, including tapeworms. The other wormers are excellent wormers too, but wont kill tapeworms. You can read up on these wormers and choose which one you want to use and I'll give you the dosage for chickens.
Joebryant BYC
I'll use Valbazen since that's your preference. I have a dozen bbs Orpintons and six silkies. What dosage would they need, and does TSC sell it? THANKS AGAIN

ETA If Valbazen will also kill tapeworm, is it necessary to use the Wazine first?

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[gottsegnet]

Thanks! I'll call the feed store and see if they have any. If not, I'm sure the vet will.

Though just going and asking helped last time I had a problem. No one who worked there had a clue what I was talking about, but another customer who raises cattle knew and helped me get what I needed.

 

[ThePamperedPullet]

We carry Wazine, Ivermectin and Fenbendazole if you cannot find it anywhere else.

 

[joebryant]

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I need some Ivermectin. How do I get your catalog?

 

[mypicklebird]

The vet will have fenbendazole (panacur), ivermectin, pyrantel (nemex), praziquantel (droncit). The feed store will have or can order those in larger bottles, or can order them- but the brand names will be different..... you need to ask a knowledgeable person, which may not be the one actually at the counter at the time you walk in. Albendazole (valbazen) is a good one from the feed store- gets tapeworms and round worms. Most only get round worms (including piperazine) I would add- it is always to know what you are trying to treat- do you see worms? Do you just suspect them? You can have your vet run a fecal to see what is there...


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[joebryant]

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mypicklebird, Wikipedia does not say that valbazen is a generic or other name for Albendazole.
"Albendazole, marketed as Albenza, Eskazole, Zentel and Andazol, is a member of the benzimidazole compounds used as a drug indicated for the treatment of a variety of worm infestations. Although this use is widespread in the United States, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved albendazole for this indication. It is marketed by GlaxoSmithKline. Albendazole was first discovered at the SmithKline Animal Health Laboratories in 1972. It is a broad spectrum anthelmintic, effective against: roundworms, tapeworms, and flukes of domestic animals and humans.[1]"

 

[mypicklebird]

I have a bottle of Valbazen 11.36% albendazole. I use it for my pet turkey to keep the cecal worms at bay. Pfizer makes it in the states & it is labeled for sheep and cattle as a broad spectrum dewormer. I usually put at the end of my posts- something about just about every drug people use in backyard poultry to control or treat disease being off label in laying hens. Forgot to to that in my last post. Thank you for helping me remember. Wikipedia is only as good as the people writing the blurbs, they didn't check Pfizer's catalog.


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mypicklebird, Wikipedia does not say that valbazen is a generic or other name for Albendazole.
"Albendazole, marketed as Albenza, Eskazole, Zentel and Andazol, is a member of the benzimidazole compounds used as a drug indicated for the treatment of a variety of worm infestations. Although this use is widespread in the United States, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved albendazole for this indication. It is marketed by GlaxoSmithKline. Albendazole was first discovered at the SmithKline Animal Health Laboratories in 1972. It is a broad spectrum anthelmintic, effective against: roundworms, tapeworms, and flukes of domestic animals and humans.[1]"

 

[chickn lova]

Hope ur chickens get better!

 

[joebryant]

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mypicklebird, Wikipedia does not say that valbazen is a generic or other name for Albendazole.
"Albendazole, marketed as Albenza, Eskazole, Zentel and Andazol, is a member of the benzimidazole compounds used as a drug indicated for the treatment of a variety of worm infestations. Although this use is widespread in the United States, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved albendazole for this indication. It is marketed by GlaxoSmithKline. Albendazole was first discovered at the SmithKline Animal Health Laboratories in 1972. It is a broad spectrum anthelmintic, effective against: roundworms, tapeworms, and flukes of domestic animals and humans.[1]"


Thanks, mypicklebird, for that info, and you're right about Wikipedia; it's not always thorough, BUT... When you say that you have a bottle of Valbazen 11.36% albendazole, what does that mean... 11.36% Valbazen or 11.36% albendazole or could it mean that it's a bottle of Valbazen with 11.36% being albendazole. If it's the latter, then Valbazen and albendazole are not the same product.