Where You Buy is Very Important!!!

Lurch

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Some of you know me as the Chicken Lady of Commack. The PO certainly knows me.........Hi.
This is my first post.
I have seen a lot in many years around fowl.

And, I have had my losses and learning experiences. But one thing I never allow, is a dirty coop or pen.
There are many good breeders around but, also there are some places that are really badly kept, have ill birds, and even dying animals.
Everyone loses a bird, Cocci, predator, or even an unknown wasting illness, but make sure wherever you buy - is as clean as can be. Be reasonable, (we can't all be out there scrubbing ) but do not accept filth.

Rule of thumb: if it smells bad - it IS bad.

Make sure you can really feel the bird you may want to buy, struggling or not, to see if it has plenty of meat on it, and no breastbone sticking out from misleading and thick feathers. Matted feathers are a sign of illness as well as a bird off by itself. A bullied bird is often a sick bird. There is no excuse for not spotting an islolated and sick animal.
Note the droppings, green is OK, and even a little mushy is OK, but beware of any orange or brown droppings.

Pools for waterfowl ...(I prefer draining pebble type ponds...with a fine spray turned on for a half hour) should be changed twice a day. Another great (and pretty) idea, is a recirculating running filtered brook, from fenceline to fenceline. All you need is a bit of an incline.

To set up your own pebble pond - take as many 4 X 4's as you need, cut them to outside shape. Miter and attach to one another to make let's say, a circle or hexagon. Make it double for height..8 inches. Line bottom with sand. Top layer with pea gravel or river rock. A good two inches of pebbles. Put the sprayer on and watch them enjoy a splash...and..you don't have to clean a algae filled mess because it drains within an hour. No bugs either.

For large geese, such as Dewlap Toulouse, a natural or filtered large pond for these heavy giants.... is the most humane. The Olde Farm pond is ideal, because it is sad to see the really big ones lumber - without being able to really swim - and take a break from gravity.

For chickens, they should be on sand, shavings or Free Ranging on Grass.
I rotate my flocks on grass a couple of times a week.


Like Swine Flu, crowds invite disease. Better to have 6 nice large fowl in a spacious area, than to crowd in 20 because you just can't resist "one more".
See how the rest of the animals are kept as well. If another animal is sick, the fowl won't get much priority.

You should insist on seeing the whole set up, even if you are only buying a baby, because it can wipe out your flock coming from parents with disease. Don't accept any excuses. The owner should be proud to show you around their flock area.
I am proud to let anyone see my birds, and their coops...from Runner Ducks to Silkies.
But remember: Sebbies (and white fowl) are Always Muddy! Magnets for muddy bottoms!!!

Be sure to read my article, coming out in Dec 2009 issue of Backyard Poultry on "How to Photograph Your Own Flock".

Kathy: ThreeFrenchHens LLC
 
Very well said.....

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and welcome!!!
 
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I'm new to chickens so forgive my ignorance, but what is wrong with brown poop, what is that a sign of, I have seen it in my chickens once so I gave them antibiotics just in case but I never figured out what caused it?
 
Thank you for the nice welcome folks!
It took years of trial and error, but I have found the key to nice fat chickens is numbers. I keep it low. It is so tempting to have more, but then one too many just ruins the whole flock - if it is a carrier.

One of my mistakes was: I got a huge 10 X14 shed, linned it with wood, perches galore - and let 30 chickens call it home. With a huge area around it. What I got was a stinking mess, because the chickens figured, "Oh, I can poop in a bigger indoor place!" Ugh, what a mess.
So now I have everyone rotate on the free range deal, in a grassy paddock, and coops and runs with Newfoundland sized Dog Houses for up to 8 chickens. They don't like to mess their smaller quarters, and only go in there to lay or at night..not running in and out with the big shed. It is so much cleaner. All coops are lined with sand and shavings.

I look at it like my clothes in my closet If I haven't worn it for a year, it's time to give it to a charity.
An example is : I have a Silkie flock up for sale now on LI.
Low price for really nice breeding, but my love is Cochins, and Marans. So, I will stick to those (I also have a couple of Seramas..(who win the cute award) and a Huge Malay pair. Baby Hugo and his wife who are not laying, but this breed is tricky. They do have a Huge pen and plenty of room. I keep them because they are just so cool.
Nice birds too. You would think the Big Guy would be tough, but with people, he is a wussy!!!
But one Danged Silkie tries to spur me!!!

Brown droppings : bad problem ..especially in young "teen" birds. Now, if they have had red fruit or something red or brown the day before, you may just have a color thing for a day.
But Coccidia is the worst scurge on young chickens. The sign is orange loose droppings and thin birds. You can find a full crop and underneath, is a rail thin bird. Often you can't beat it, even with good medications such as Corrid..expensive stuff too.
They either beat it, with or without meds, I always try meds, or they die. On first sign, they should be separated from the flock.
Just when you think you have it beat..Another Red Dropping.
You can lime the soil to make the soil unfriendly to cocci but it's stubborn. And the droppings smell to High Heaven.

Anyway Hi again folks!!!!!
 

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