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Nurse_turtle, I didn't say they would not experience any pain. However they do
go back to their normal self afterwards, which tells me that they are not in enormous amounts of pain
or shock. I don't mind people disagreeing with it, we dub our birds simply to prevent frostbite - which
would cause painful infections and possibly death.
I pretty much agree with Ukiah. However, dubbing is an issue that has been discussed over and over on this forum. Many topics have been closed because of this topic which both sides can exhibit good points. As I told another earlier, there is probably a lot in the poultry world I don't agree with. But because it is legal typically, or I can give nothing more than a opinion, I don't say anything. Different strokes for different folks- anyone can pass judgment and call names when they have never been around that situation. Any information passed along without direct knowledge or even intensive research can be considered nothing more than a opinion and isn't something to base the whole world off of IMO.
If dubbing is such a large issue to you, there are plenty of threads which have most likely argued all of your points and more. For the people who do it, it hasn't changed their opinion, and rarely ever does it change the opposing sides opinion of it. It is just like docking puppies, even if done in a way that it doesn't cause any pain for sure people would still find something to pick at about it because they view it as unnecessary/ not natural. Doesn't matter how you view it, they're not your birds and you're not in that persons shoes.
I don't say this to either Ukiah or nurse_turtle specifically, though they happen to be in the quotes. I speak at large, as I know someone else will come along and give into the temptation of stirring the pot until "Ta-da" a discussion breaks out and the thread will probably be locked as commonly happens when birds being dubbed is brought up.
God bless,
Daniel.
Very well said.
Nurse_turtle, I didn't say they would not experience any pain. However they do
go back to their normal self afterwards, which tells me that they are not in enormous amounts of pain
or shock. I don't mind people disagreeing with it, we dub our birds simply to prevent frostbite - which
would cause painful infections and possibly death.
I pretty much agree with Ukiah. However, dubbing is an issue that has been discussed over and over on this forum. Many topics have been closed because of this topic which both sides can exhibit good points. As I told another earlier, there is probably a lot in the poultry world I don't agree with. But because it is legal typically, or I can give nothing more than a opinion, I don't say anything. Different strokes for different folks- anyone can pass judgment and call names when they have never been around that situation. Any information passed along without direct knowledge or even intensive research can be considered nothing more than a opinion and isn't something to base the whole world off of IMO.
If dubbing is such a large issue to you, there are plenty of threads which have most likely argued all of your points and more. For the people who do it, it hasn't changed their opinion, and rarely ever does it change the opposing sides opinion of it. It is just like docking puppies, even if done in a way that it doesn't cause any pain for sure people would still find something to pick at about it because they view it as unnecessary/ not natural. Doesn't matter how you view it, they're not your birds and you're not in that persons shoes.
I don't say this to either Ukiah or nurse_turtle specifically, though they happen to be in the quotes. I speak at large, as I know someone else will come along and give into the temptation of stirring the pot until "Ta-da" a discussion breaks out and the thread will probably be locked as commonly happens when birds being dubbed is brought up.
God bless,
Daniel.
Very well said.
