It shocked me to see just how big he got! He's active too, not like the meatie birds. I figured a duck, right? Lol, instead I got a bird, like you said that rivals a goose. I thought the Grand Pekins were big, but Tramp has them beat by far. I am going to have to get a current picture of him and Lady. I'll try and do that tomorrow and send them along.Haunted my weights posted are processed weights not live bird. LoL I love my big boys. We have culled small birds and now have consistent jumbo fwm