Why so many new variety projects, but no new breed projects?

[Poulets De Cajun]

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My point exactly.... Its easier to buy a hen with a higher tail carriage than it is to try and breed your own. Your rooster will produce babies with slightly higher tail carriage than his own, but it may be generations and generations before you see the progress you desire now. By buying someone elses birds, you aren't 'developing' anything, you're only carrying on what someone else started. Yes you mix gene pools, and breeding pens, and you come up with 'your' genetic "line" of birds, but what makes them different than anyone elses?

People who took a self blue OEG and introduced the 'lavender' into Silkies in the 1980's, were developing, they created a new variety. People who took the mille fleur pattern from one bird and introduced it into the Cochins, were developing, they also created a new variety, and are still in the process. The BYC moderator HinkJC or whoever it was that introduced the lavender color to the Orps or whatever breed it was were developing.

Are you understanding what I'm trying to say?

 

[TK Poultry]

but can't you build and develope a breed without having to start a new variety

 

[Poulets De Cajun]

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Either I'm not understanding your point, or you're not understanding mine... I'm confused now. We're probably starting to beat a dead horse anyway, so I'll resign.

 

[big medicine]

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Well thats great! But you, and those 'some' are only a very, very select few who are putting effort into development. Birds and eggs dont sell for hundreds, and thousands of dollars because people are genuinely interested in breeding and development. Birds and eggs sell for that much because people want the 'brand', to be able to sell their stock from "so and so's lines," and to be able to take home the blue ribbon at any cost. Buying is easier than developing, and with more buyers than developers, its quite easy to see why Europeans have more breeds/varieties.

We few, we happy few, we band of chicken breeders.... All I'm saying is we don't all necessarily fit in the same catagory, or motivation.

 

[MikeandCandice]

I would like to start a new breed but I hardly know anything about genetics. I would like a single comb (deep red), green leg (medium length), long neck, loud and long crowing, lobster tailed, large olive/blue eggs, non brooder, excellent layer, BB red color with striking feathering. I want to set a ten year time frame to complete it. I know some of you are probably thinking....IDIOT! My goal is to make a ornamental olive egger with excellent laying genes that is a friendly non brooder. I am sure I will be doing more culling than anything. I guess I will be like Bubba Gump with chickens. Luckily we eat chicken more than anything else already. Any advice is appreciated; even constructive criticism. I have a feeling my gun collecting is going to suffer. Anyone want to trade some chickens for uzi's, AK's, Ar's, sniper rifles....Just kidding I'll keep the guns but looking for top notch breeding stock at this time.

I want to start a new breed for gratification not for money.

 

[TK Poultry]

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Either I'm not understanding your point, or you're not understanding mine... I'm confused now. We're probably starting to beat a dead horse anyway, so I'll resign.

Its probably me, I've done this a couple of times? Maybe we should talk about it somewhere else! LOL