Will NOT be buying TSC feeds again

[threehorses]

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Haven't tried it but it's an economy line from Calf-Manna. The layer looks to be ok in protein but low in calcium. Always provide oyster shell with their products. I can't see any evidence of fortification either - which might explain the very low calcium.

Calf manna feeds are good, but I'm not sure about economy lines. Personally I can tell you just by reading the label that I wouldn't use it, no.

 

[Chick_a_dee]

TSC is very low quality food. I had to sub TSC food a while ago for my laying hens because our Purina mill was shut for the holiday weekend and I was out of feed. The hens dropped off production and pooped a WHOLE load more!

 

[dave3877]

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Wouldn't have been bluebonnet. Their grains are exceptionally clean and dust-free (if kept right - remember the feedstore's storage has a lot to do with it). I'm very very highly picky about which feeds I call exceptional and my experiences with bluebonnet have always been thus.

Down here though MG is the one that is crap. A friend emailed me and said she switched feeds, didn't remember the brand, but it was like ground up Cat Litter. I told her "that's MG". Sure enough - it was.

I have to say - I've read some Dumor labels and wasn't at all impressed by a few. Like the 15% grower/finisher? Seriously, 15%? I thought someone was joking. I've also heard alot about big stinky droppings when using it - makes me wonder what quality of ingredient goes into it.

OMG i never thought about laying feed for cat litter!! Maybe I should go buy some more MG!

yeah mg feed is garbage. so is pilgrims pride. youd think a chicken producer would have quality feed but its fluff and no substance. like i siad i like bryant grain. the only drawback to them is their starter grower is kind of coarse and large so i have to run it thru the old grist mill here when i feed day olds but once they are up to a certain size its very palatable. i looked up thier website and a store over in alvin called Last Round Up carries it. might want to give it a try. when i was in the feed store business noone can and still can match their prices or quality. even their cattle and horse feeds are high quality texas grown grain. i also read gander mountain is a dealer but id bet thats for gamebird feed and corn mostly for hgunters but you never know. heres the website

http://www.bryantgrain.com

 

[threehorses]

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LOL on Pilgrim's Pride. Right? You'd think... I'm going to have to check out this Byrant Graint. I've never heard of Last Round Up, but that's just down the road from us - actually next to my feed store, Steinhauser's. (Great place.) I'll have to check it out. I'm a sucker for a pretty bag of feed! I'm trying to hard to aim towards some nice grain feed for my horses, but with complete vitamins/minerals and it's tough. Even Omolene is about half pellets now. But you know -I'm not opposed to gamebird feed. I used some gamebird starter (nutrena) this year for my chicks and WOW was it nice! They really thrived. (I had poults, goslings, and bantams all to raise). In fact, I'm feeding gamebird feed now as half the ration. So hey - thanks for the links.

Ohhh I'm excited now! A possible new feedstore to sniff out and pretty feed!

Thanks, Dave!

 

[dave3877]

anytime. i use it in my chickens ration as well. all my birds get it. now my big turkeys like crumbled floating fishfood as well. gives them their animal protien as well. glad i could help

 

[dave3877]

do you use a textured feed or a blend for your horses and how old are they. bryant has a 14% (i think) horsde feed called equine energy texture. they have it in a pellet as well. its a good sweet feed though and lots of crimped and rolled grains in it along with a pellet

 

[juliect]

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I agree, our local place has a lot of Hubbard feed which is good feed when you can find a blend without medication in the mix. The feed store always says the there is no withdrawl like that makes it OK. I use Hubbard non medicated feeds for the pigs and chicken layer mix.

I used TSC Dumor (no meds) starter for the chicks -- about the only non medicated feed I could find for starting chicks. I still rotate in some Dumor feed for the chickens Chickens are healthy and the goats have beautiful coats and are very healthy.

I like Dumor and Hubbard feeds.

Wow you all have the opposite from what we have here! At my TSC all of the chicken feed is $14/50 lbs. The local feedstore charges $15/100 lbs. and it's fresh. Easy choice for me!

It helps that our local Farmers Co-op is crappy. Small town...we only have two choices.
Also our Co-op's chick starter is oddly at only 16% protein...I like to keep mine on 20% protein or higher the first 6 weeks. 16% is fine for a grower, but not a starter, imho.

 

[threehorses]

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Mine was (previously) mostly grain with the vitamin/mineral package in a nice textured oat-shaped particle. The particles were not very noticable and certainly not half of the feed. They recently changed the formulation. The feed store owner said some people didn't like it. When I poured it, I saw why. If I had wanted a pellet, I'd feed one. But my horses do much better on a mostly grain feed, without molasses if I can get it (rare to get a good one that way), with just enough v/m package to make it complete.

Since I only need a 11% protein, that's easy enough since whole oats are generally that. A little alfalfa to balance the corn takes care of the protein.

I'll try their feed and see what it's like. Perhaps it will go back to being a mostly grain feed instead of a pelleted feed in disquise as a grain feed. /sigh It's worth a shot!

 

[dave3877]

most definitely. they do have a few 12% rations. i know for sure the bronco and high energy horse and mule are both smothered in molasses. the performance we never carried. never was a real call for it. most of the horse owners here are cowboys of course and people who do the trail ride thing (you can find one any weekend up here if you wanted to lol). so they give their horses a good thick feed along with their hay and alfalfa. you can tell though what they feed when you get around their horses after a long day. the molasses seeps through their pores but the horses seem no worse for the wear and are lively despite being worked out

 

[dave3877]

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Hard to do, but important to do !

Please share your results with us here.

I have been looking for a grain mill (not a business, but an antique appliance with a crank that one turns by hand). If I get anywhere with this project, I'll let y'all know.

i have an old motorized one. they are called grist mills. randall burkey and murray mcmurray have them but youll drop a deuce when ya see how much they want for them. mine was my grandpas old one and i love it. the starter i get while excellent is rather coarse so i run it through before i feed it so there is less waste