Worming egg laying hens!

[buff_the_rooster]

We just brought home two new hens and they have round worms!! (It was in thier stool a few days after we got them)
I dont want them infesting all my birds, they being kept seperate right now. I want to worm all my birds to be safe.
What is safest wormer to use to worm your egg layers with?
I need something effective!
Where do I buy it? My local feed store carrys Wazine 17, that is all they have for chickens!
However the bottle says Do not use in chickens producing eggs for human consumption.
I was told I can use Wazine if I discard the eggs? But for how long??
And then I repeat it and discard more eggs? Again how long??
Is there something safer to use? Help I am confused.
I dont want my chickens to have worms but I dont want my kids to be posioned from eating eggs from the dewormer, and I dont want to keep tossing all my eggs out. (seems like a waste)
Also can I see a worm in an egg if I candle it?

 

[Uppity Peon]

Do you like spicy eggs?

 

[threehorses]

To worm for an actual infestation, you can use Wazine. Don't eat the eggs or milk for 14 days. Wazine requires retreatment. If you're SEEING worms then your chickens are quite infested as normally, even if wormy, you don't see worms in the feces.

So worm everyone with Wazine. (It's a one-day treatment). Then you could reworm in 2 weeks with ivermectin. It's not labeled for poultry, but it's used for poultry and is very very effective.

It's too effective for using first time on the very infested birds. Wazine is less effective and only kills rounds to my knowledge. That's good - because if you killed all those worms in the birds immediately you might risk shock or blockage. It's even labeled for retreatment - and there's a good reason for that!

But if in your followup you use ivermectin, you'll also kill mites and parasites that take blood (for which you should check these chickens very very carefully - dust them and the grounds if you have them), and most every common poultry parasite except tapes.

There are posts here on using ivermectin. I like drop on but bought injectable for water use this year for the first time.

You can use cayenne and DE inbetween to help prevent the birds from getting infested. If you use DE (diatomaceous earth) only buy human-grade fresh water - don't buy pool or hardware store/garden DE. Then use sparingly in their dust bathing areas. You can use it very sparingly in food. 2% of their total ration is what i've read. I used 1#/50#'s feed which is the same when I used it. Mix everything in - they shouldn't breath it, nor should you.

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

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[mdbokc]

now may I add that I would put the hens on 2% DE added to the daily feed amt. like 2 patrs DE and 10 parts feed

2 parts DE and 10 parts feed equals 17%, not 2%. 2% is more like a 2 parts DE and 99 parts feed ratio​

 

[buff_the_rooster]

OK so worm with Wazine an wait 10-14 days before using eggs?
Then reworm with Ivermectin right? Is it safe to eat eggs after reworming with Ivermectin? What dosage do I use of the Ivermectin?
How often do I give them DE and/or Cayenne?
Where can I buy DE and Ivermectin?
I can check my local feed store they may carry but not said so if it is not labeled for poultry?

 

[buff_the_rooster]

Also what can I use for routine wormer? I dont want to keep throwing eggs out.

 

[Cuban Longtails]

This stuff is safe to use, and no withdrawl period.

http://www.verm-xusa.com/

 

[threehorses]

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Verm-X is recommended for control of worms. They don't specifically say anywhere on the site that they recommend their product if your animal has a current strong infestation or for parasite knock-down.

The way that the product is recommended for usage is three days a month.

For that reason I think it would be lovely as a maintenance program. It might be applicable here where there's not a certain sign of worms yet. But personally if there are worms, I'd still use the other method once - THEN use this to keep parasites in check.

This is my opinion and I can't really figure out a way of saying it that doesn't sound like I'm "calling out" Cuban Longtails. /blush That's not at all my intention and I apologize for just not being able to word it prettier at the moment. It's just one of those days.

Just that I've seen so many products that use this sort of language that is not quite clear.

Probably the best thing to do would be have one of the chickens fecals taken in for an egg count. Then you can know exactly what's going on. If there are no worms, why not try a product like this if you want to. But if there are worms, I still think it's best to get rid of them as they cause so many problems.

Again my opinion, and I offer it as one of many opinions.

 

[buff_the_rooster]

So can you incubate eggs they lay during that 2 week period that they can not be consumed or no?