Would you consider him a "Chocolate Serama"???

[BeardedLadyFarm]

The frizzled guy next to him might be chocolate based though...

The best part of it is that Seramas don't have to be anything! All colors and combos are acceptable.

Pretty birds there.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

see the thing is, there arent chocolate polish in the USA. That is a common breed name used for dun polish, why in the world they wanted to do that is a mistery to me, but they named them that, that's why we also have khaki polish, cause they are really duns.

I have dun in my d'anvers, and their coloring looks exact to them, so I'd be willing to bet they are just dun based.

The breeding Philladelphia out lined for you is the best sure fire way to tell

As for making more of either, no that's easy, just breed him to what ever you want to put dun in and you will get more duns, that's the easy part. Hard part, also like they mentioned, seramas dont really breed true yet to any color or pattern, genetically they are a mess with that reguard, so you'll never know just what will come from them, but by using him as a breeder, you will get more dun patterned birds.

Yes seramas are one of the few US breeds with true chocolate in them, even still, dun is WAY more common. And to me, a better color to work with too, reasaon being you get 3 colors for the time and cost of 1 out of the breeding, black based, dun based, and khaki based. Kinda like Christmas when they hatch

 

[Keri78]

Thanks Guys! I knew I could count on you to straighten me out on this!

It is such a fun Hobby! I think I am going to buy a black hen but first I have to sell some eggs!

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

You really cannot tell from appearance that a chocolate coloured bird is dun or choc based, and variety names are based upon appearance, not genetics.

The photo does not look chocolate coloured, as has been said, it looks much more like blue. That said, your camera settings and the colour monitor settings every individual looking at this thread will determine the hue they see.. It is VERY tricky to display hues accurately. Some hues are less difficult, but distinguishing between two slightly different hues of a similar depth of shade can be quite difficult. If he is the same hue as your chocolate polish, then chances are that that is what he is. Whether he is chocolate based upon dun or choc is another matter as they are both in serama.

 

[catwalk]

He doesn't look chocolate to me, but if he is, the parents should help you confirm this. The father wouldn't have to be chocolate, but he would be required to carry the gene in order to pass it on. His mother, on the other hand, would need to be chocolate. She only has one chromosome that carries the chocolate locus, and she will be chocolate if she carries it at all. She wouldn't need to be all chocolate, as the gene doesn't dilute red pigment, but anything that would otherwise be black will now be dark brown. If the sire has thrown any chocolate pullets, that would be a clue to his genetics. Do you have pics of the parents?

 

[serama girl]

The frizzled guy next to him might be chocolate based though...

The best part of it is that Seramas don't have to be anything! All colors and combos are acceptable.

Pretty birds there.

I agree that the frizzle does look like a mottled chocolate. I have a mottled chocolate hen that is not frizzled, but she looks somewhat like that serama, minus the frizzling, of course!