Year long bumblefoot

[MasterChief2988]

My rooster of age ~ 2 years has had bumblefoot for a long time
i tried to tear off the cap and treat with poviodine iodine and neosprorin multiple times to no avail
he is my only rooster and lives indoors with me
i wrap his feet in masking tape
it has gotten much worse due to me constantly probing and trying to fix it
chicken specialist in my country told me to only rub poviodine on it
he has slight limp but doesnt sit down and is afraid to jump from heights
what should i do

 

[Helloworld]

My rooster of age ~ 2 years has had bumblefoot for a long time
i tried to tear off the cap and treat with poviodine iodine and neosprorin multiple times to no avail
he is my only rooster and lives indoors with me
i wrap his feet in masking tape
it has gotten much worse due to me constantly probing and trying to fix it
chicken specialist in my country told me to only rub poviodine on it
he has slight limp but doesnt sit down and is afraid to jump from heights
what should i do

Go to Store or online and get Curad 1% Silver solution. It is a cream, in a 1 oz tube. Online you can get bulk packages of it. You will need 3-4 tubes. silver will kill and dry up necrosis(dead tissue) bacteria within days. The wound should be open, no sign of a white hard core and if so removed and fill with the Corad. Bandage with a larger bandaid like for knees and repeat every 3 days. Silver quits working after 3 days. Do not use peroxide to clean as it makes wound larger from bubbling out new tissue cells. Silver eats it. You will see an improvement at first dressing change. I am a wound care nurse and trust me when I say EVERYONE should have this ointment in medicine and bird cabinet.

 

[Kathy Golla]

Hello!
Can you tell us where in the world you are?
Have you, with any of your probing, ever got any pus out of below this scab?
I am making the assumption that you currently dont see any infection in the footpad. I dont see any swelling. If this is true, this looks to me to be pododermatitis.

• Does this rooster go outside during the day? What breed is he? Is he a meat bird?
• Is it only on one foot?
• If he goes outside, be very careful about what he's walking on, it should be soft.
• Is he walking in wet conditions, for instance are you in the Philippines? Wet conditions contribute a lot.
• Weight contributes to this. Try to have him at a good weight.
• This looks to have become a callus on the bottom of his foot. Cutting into it and removing it will just cause a new scab and then a new callus. Now you have to work to get the callus to come off, and it can take a long time.
• My recommendation if you can is to fashion him something on his feet that takes the pressure off that scab.The pododermatits doesnt heal well because there is not good circulation in the foot pad and birds are on their feet all the time.
• Some people use pool noodles. If you use something very thick you should also do it to the birds other foot otherwise you will get limping problems with imbalance.
• Something like these callus cushions may work, and stick a couple of them together to get good thickness. Put this on the bottom of the foot with the scab in the middle where the hole is, and wrap the foot lightly with vetrap.
• https://www.target.com/p/callus-cus...r-scholl-s-round-callus-cushions/-/A-14516128
  
• In the meantime, you need to try, over time, to get that callus off. It wont come off by itself and it will continue to grow outward and cause pain for the bird. I give the bird a long foot soak at least once a week for about 20 minutes and then get a scalpel or razor blade or sharp small scissors and try to take a little bit off of the callus at a time, or razor off any thick parts. If you get to where you can get some of the callus off little by little over time where there is new skin, that is the goal. Be very careful! You arent cutting into the foot.
• If you can get carprofen from your vet, or a vet, even dog Rimadyl, that will help with his pain during the day. Its a very small pill and easy to administer. The dose for a regular sized hen is one half of a 25 mg tablet once daily during the day. A larger rooster may need more.
• When you get it to a manageable state then I use a birdie bootie instead of the callus cushion. It helps protect the bottom of the foot. I take it off at night before roosting. Be careful because chickens sweat through their feet and you dont want this on when it is very hot.
• http://crazykfarm.mybigcommerce.com/birdy-bootie-hand-made-in-the-usa/
  
• Make sure hes eating good food, including things high in Vitamin A
• Most of all, try to figure out what is causing this...his weight, wet conditions, his living conditions. If you search the threads on BYC there are a lot of posts about conditions.

The iodine and/or the silver cream wont hurt. I think most vets recommend the iodine only if there is a staph infection present. I think helloworld is saying to reapply silver cream every three days. With silver cream, it forms a barrier, so you have to wash it off every time you reapply or the next application wont work. Silver cream works through scabs, which is nice. You dont have to put it on every day. I have found once there is a scab/callus, putting any medicine on it doesnt really help much. You can try it though and see if it helps.

 

[Trux]

Go to Store or online and get Curad 1% Silver solution. It is a cream, in a 1 oz tube. Online you can get bulk packages of it. You will need 3-4 tubes. silver will kill and dry up necrosis(dead tissue) bacteria within days. The wound should be open, no sign of a white hard core and if so removed and fill with the Corad. Bandage with a larger bandaid like for knees and repeat every 3 days. Silver quits working after 3 days. Do not use peroxide to clean as it makes wound larger from bubbling out new tissue cells. Silver eats it. You will see an improvement at first dressing change. I am a wound care nurse and trust me when I say EVERYONE should have this ointment in medicine and bird cabinet.

I can vouch for the silver medicine, wound clinic used it on me and gave me a small bottle of it and when other stuff didn't work it did.

 

[MasterChief2988]

Go to Store or online and get Curad 1% Silver solution. It is a cream, in a 1 oz tube. Online you can get bulk packages of it. You will need 3-4 tubes. silver will kill and dry up necrosis(dead tissue) bacteria within days. The wound should be open, no sign of a white hard core and if so removed and fill with the Corad. Bandage with a larger bandaid like for knees and repeat every 3 days. Silver quits working after 3 days. Do not use peroxide to clean as it makes wound larger from bubbling out new tissue cells. Silver eats it. You will see an improvement at first dressing change. I am a wound care nurse and trust me when I say EVERYONE should have this ointment in medicine and bird cabinet.

This is a cream i have used long ago on the scab , is this okay to use as substitute? Eitherways every 3 days i apply silver cream onto scab and bandage it up?

 

[Kathy Golla]

That is the right cream with the correct ingredients.

 

[MasterChief2988]

After applying a little pressure and washing the scab came off, how bad is it ? no pus mild swelling
I applied cream to the wound and wrapped it.
so i reapply in 3 day intervals with washing?

 

[Kathy Golla]

Looks good. Yes, cream every three days and wrap and keep it clean and dry. Wipe the foot to get the previous cream application off before you reapply.
It will form another scab, but it will be smaller and thinner hopefully and less painful to him. Let the new skin come in behind the new scab. The silver cream penetrates scabs as long as you apply it right. If you pull the new scab off too often the skin behind it won’t heal. When it looks like the scab has become thick and like a callus again (maybe three weeks?) and there is new skin forming behind the scab, pull the scab off again and keep doing that maybe every three weeks until there is no scab. Then be careful because his foot pad skin will be new and tender, you have to protect it from getting scraped or punctured until the footpad skin becomes thick again.
Vetrap and gauze would be easier on his feet than masking tape if you can get it, as long as you can keep his feet dry while his foot is bandaged. If you make a square of gauze under the bandage it will keep a little pressure off that spot. There are videos on YouTube about bandaging chicken feet if you haven’t viewed them already.

 

[MasterChief2988]

rewrapping with silver solution how does it look?

 

[Missyyann]

So I have ducks and I had an issue with bumble foot and used the silver cream on the ducks feet as well and cured the bumble foot in about a month. We also switched to Astro turf so it’s more sanitary