Yellow Belly - Indian Runner ducks

[notallducksinmypond]

Hi.

(I wanted to reply to you earlier, @notallducksinmypond, but I have not been able to connect with my account for these last days...!!!)

ohh im sorry... yes the internet is sometimes a real problem

I don't think I know enough about the genes (yet at least) to make use of them in conversation...?

No, i dont want to say that, but if you call something a color you assume is for example blue fawn , you could put "blue fawn (MM Blbl)" into your text, so somebody with a different background (mostly language or regionwise) can think "oh i know that, but we call it "xy" " so people can understand better and help better instead of thinking "ahw, never heard of blue fawn? i don´t know anything about that"

Yes.
And in Europe, we still call this phase "Fawn and White".
Even though some non-European people disagree with the fact OUR Brown Pied Indian Runners ARE really (a phase of) Fawn and White...

yes, but thats another problem... some people want to talk about colors without taking care of the genes behind them, so for example american fawn & white (pied apricot mallard) does not look like our fawn and white (pied mallard) therefore "IT IS NOT THE SAME" *angrystompingtoddlervoice*
and in real life it is the same, with just one different gene

A darker version of Apricot Trout, but in the drake's appearance only.

"Blue Fawn" is actually Blue (Bl, bl+) diluted Mallard (M+).
Not "li/li"...!

"Pastel" is also called "Apricot Mallard".

So, I don't think I need to tell you you would just need to replace "li/li" from "Apricot Trout" by "Li+/Li+" to get "Pastel"... right?

(You do know more than me about genes!)

so we go: Mallard (no blue) - Blue Fawn (one blue) - Pastel (two blue)
as in: trout (no blue) - blue trout (one blue) - apricot trout (two blue)
nice !

But regarding the Butterscoth colour... I have NO idea what genes would be different from the Apricot Trout colour!
(I need to learn MORE!!)

no insurance on this one... i just looked at some "butterscotch" calls on google... and did NO real research on genetics!

i tend to silvermallard/ appleyard/light phase restricted mallard (MR/MR, li/li) as base for the butterscotch... bright, bold eyestripes, white bellys , double colored feathers with white

That is great!
And that would be wonderful for me, but you would have to go in Auvergne then... and where I live, there is nothing; so you would mostly visit cows...!
Ah, ah, ah!

(For the record : the cows in my area ARE amazing.)

Do you like the countryside?
...The cold and the rain...?

My departement is actually beautiful, and I am happy to live here. But there are people (including tourists) complaining about the humid climate, and the fact "there is nothing but cows"...

Still, if you come here : the landscape are magnificent, and people are generally kind (even though they can act kind of cold with people they don't know).

(And my dad is German, so language won't be an issue in case our accent is difficult to understand.)

I really like cows, i´m going to get my bachelors degree in agriculture next spring!
I did a little google, it looks beautiful where you live!

I have them!!

But : I really would need to open a thread to ask some advices, because apparently, I can NOT make a lighter phase of Fawn and White "just" by adding Blue...?

(I don't know...!!! People are saying so different things!!)

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(Here is my beautiful Patch!!)

who says you can´t do that?
to my knowledge, the runner pattern/pied is dominant (the almighty eend calculator says so too)
so in orger to get something blue(ish) pied (blue or blue mallard/blue fawn)
Mr. Patch has to get on a date with your splash lady... if hes heterozygote pied, half of the ducklings would show some white markings and if hes homozygote all of them should
If that doesn´t work i would be surprised...

 

[Papaye]

Hi.

I will have to post newest pictures of my 2 Yellow Belly Indian Runners, because they are clearly (still) molting for the time being... and so, I did not, in fact, post pictures of their definitive plumage/colours...

Also : they could actually be (Yellow Belly) Blue Trout coloured ducks, and not Blue Fawn as I first thought...?
(I don't know...!!)

ohh im sorry... yes the internet is sometimes a real problem

I live in the countryside, so you can imagine how bad it is...

And since they have activated a cell phone tower close to my home last year, it has been worse yet than before...
(...One of their workers even has dared to tell us that was "normal"!!)

I really like cows, i´m going to get my bachelors degree in agriculture next spring!

Ooooooh...
Do tell me when you get it, so I can congratulate you then!

I did a little google, it looks beautiful where you live!

It is.
But it would be so much better if (so) many people stopped building on (former) agricultural lands...

who says you can´t do that?
to my knowledge, the runner pattern/pied is dominant (the almighty eend calculator says so too)
so in orger to get something blue(ish) pied (blue or blue mallard/blue fawn)
Mr. Patch has to get on a date with your splash lady... if hes heterozygote pied, half of the ducklings would show some white markings and if hes homozygote all of them should
If that doesn´t work i would be surprised...

There are threads talking about breeding a Fawn and White duck with a solid coloured one, but I remember some of the crosses do make sex-linked ducklings...

(Sorry my reply is so short today : my computer has given me many issues since yesterday morning...!!)