I had some pads for my chicks but the chicks began to peck and scratch them so out they went and I now use the wood chips on top of linoleum. Everyone has to use what will work for them. I have the full sized hens in the coop when I Have hens. I will get my chicks in Feb. or March from a local store. I am too old to go here and there like i did before. The English orps. were so pretty but do not lay as well as the other hens. Speckled hen I still remember that sweet hen that came to me at your home who was molting. She was unforgetable.I would have discovered pee pads way before now. My dad made me a custom 4x4 raised coop house and did tons of research, making it pretty awesome with exactly what my 4 EEs needed. Then I rescued 3 bantams, but they still fit fine in the 16 sq ft house and 100 sq ft total coop since everyone can go under/in/on top of the coop. Mostly they sleep outside, but I did put shavings inside the house and nest box for them. Then a hawk found the coop and freaked them out a little (it never got inside, just was traumatic for them being that close) and stayed in the house for a week solid. I got tired of cleaning shavings and it's not really made for deep litter, so I put in some doggy pee pads that I had to absorb moisture and make it easy to clean. And then I discovered that they make 2'x4' pee pads, and that I could put 2 in there and clean it once a week now, and life is so much easier. On our garbage pick-up day, I just take a garbage bag out to the coop, throw the 2 dirty pads in the bag, add 2 fresh pads, and I'm done. Easy peasy.