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  1. WallTenters

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    Sorry, double post somehow ETA: I looked up at the photo above again - looks like that particular female has molted in her back but not in her saddle area, if that is the case and the back feathers are new with the cushion/saddle area being old feathers, check your brooding environment and...
  2. WallTenters

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    Check these poofed feathers- are they still blood feathers? If so, wait to make any final decisions. If the blood is out of them and they're still up get rid of her, or if you have enough females to choose from only keep those that never had the problem or that have molted faster and are done...
  3. WallTenters

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    I think many see a Dominique and think it is an easy breed, which is just not true. Very difficult color pattern to get right and that is only after you've gotten the type, the comb, and the tail on that male phew lot of work I really respect those on here that have been at it and working hard...
  4. WallTenters

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    Before we need to move onto another breed, are there any other breeders or judges that want to comment on the birds that have been posted? I need to get out to the pens and take photos of those birds we currently have together, I've also got a cockerel here from Farthing's lines so that will be...
  5. WallTenters

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    So if you canmake her contrast in her tail just a bit better, broaden up those wing feathers, and send her to my house and that hen would be just about perfect! Is that the one in your avatar looks so nice great job hope you're showing them! If you are who I think you are then yes you are...
  6. WallTenters

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    Chris I don't understand and maybe I'm reading your comments wrong. Appreciate all the discussion but too much for me to take in all at once on one subject need some time to absorb it! I wanted to bring up one final point though on the color of the male. When you said there was no mention of...
  7. WallTenters

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    Chris just because they are bred back to black does not mean they have to have a dark cast to that. If you breed a cuckoo male on black hens you'll get male and female offspring with only one barring gene, the females may look a touch smutty the first generation, the males will look very dark...
  8. WallTenters

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    Fun discussion :D Chris I also do not like really light males either. In fact I would prefer a male slightly darker than what most breeders would I think - but that's just my personal preference. I wonder why in the bantams we do not have an issue with the males having such a washed out tail...
  9. WallTenters

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    A personal suggestion perhaps, but one that leads to males with coloring more similar to the great males of past and present. Again perhaps that UK breeder likes his males dark, but if you show up with a Dominique male to a group of fifty Dominique breeders and fifty APA judges all honest about...
  10. WallTenters

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    It is not a question of single breeding or double breeding - I feel in my opinion (not saying this is what that breeder prefers, or what the judges prefer) that that male is too even in bars and much too dark, if you are comparing him to the standard for Dominique coloring.
  11. WallTenters

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    I suppose we must be disagreeing on what a good cuckoo is. I hate the male I posted above's straightness and evenness of barring in the saddle area. I do agree I think his tail barring is rather nice though would like to see better alteration of bars and more v shape but I like that he has some...
  12. WallTenters

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    Well Chris this cockerel may be a good example, on his chick eval sheet he was marked "very fast feathering" and yet here he is with very tight, straight narrow bars in his saddle area and even if you look at his tail feathers they are much straighter than they should be. If you took his saddle...
  13. WallTenters

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    I could get you photos of the adults but probably not matching chick photos. We evaluate feathering at one week of age fast vs medium vs slow. We had hoped that the fast feathering cockerels would have improved patterning but just not finding that to be consistently true.
  14. WallTenters

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    Sorry I should say - they look like they have barred rock barring, barring that is even, clean and narrow.
  15. WallTenters

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    So Chris we have tracked fast vs slow feathering and found that some of the fastest feathered cockerels have very very even barring especially in the saddle area... thoughts?
  16. WallTenters

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    He never grew in a tail and never would have - a pullet sire only. We culled him from breeding as he kept having chicks with inverted combs and split wings. I think I have maybe three or four pullets and a couple of cockerels still from him will see if they have the same issues, they are still...
  17. WallTenters

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    I have started tracking yellow vs silver downed chicks - we have them both here (where the dot on the head is yellow or silver, never keep a rust or full yellow colored Dom chick lol). Will keep you all posted on what the results are as we go through spring hatching. We toe punch and wing band...
  18. WallTenters

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    ew that bird in the front in this bottom picture is GONE wish I could erase it from memory, but I guess that's what you get for taking group shots before you cull!
  19. WallTenters

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    1st gen cock bird (hatchery) of of the 2nd gen bird (young, sorry no adult photos) by the above cock bird one of this year's cockerels,. I think about 7mo in this photo? by the above bird, so first bird pictured is granddaddy >> that's a first gen hen in the background, not looking...
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