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Diatomaceous Earth, Respiratory Diseases, and Feather depigmentation. Help?

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This may be a long post but I would appreciate all the help I can get! I graduated with a Bachelors of  Animal Science last year and decided to start my own flock again after having to give all my 4-H birds away while I was at college. I went to a trade show in OH and bought 3 lovely birds who were together for about 6 months with no issues what so ever. I had some funny Brahma chicks also come in who died shortly after arriving for seemingly no reason. I figured they were sick already from the farmer I go them from. But they were never around my 3 hens. A few months later I got a rooster from a friend. Well he ended up getting sick. Coughing, ruffled feathers, Sneezing, and droopy wings. I thought he was going to kick the bucket, but he survived when put under a heat lamp and given electrolytes. No hens got sick and he was always separate from them.

 

This spring I put the rooster, my old hens, and 12 new pullets (raised from chicks) all together with no health issues at all.

 

This summer I was lucky enough to get 20 more chickens and my dad and I built a large chicken coop to hold them. The 20 Ameracauna chickens were free rangers who I had raised on grass since day old chicks,while the 16 original birds were in a smaller coop right in the middle of their free-ranging zone. 

 

About 3 weeks ago we put all the birds together and they were doing great until 5 days ago. Six days ago I noticed a large louse infection on a hen and decided to dust with Diatomaceous Earth. Tons of individuals liked it when I read it online and my usual dust was out of stock at my local feed store, so I decided to buy it. I sprinkled about 2 pound sin my 20' x 20' coop, just on the inside. The next day I came out (5 days ago) and found 3 hens with massive swollen eyes and nasal drainage only on half of their face. I sprayed Vetricyn fearing an eye worm (I didnt have eye anthelminics on hand) and added electrolytes to their water.

 

These symptoms have progressed to each of the 20 new birds now showing eye swelling, nasal discharge, and loss of pigmentation in the face. Every day a new bird showed symptoms, while the birds I had treated with Vetricyn had no swelling, or eye and nasal discharge, just pale faces and combs. There is no smell to the birds and no coughing or sneezing. They are on a complete diet of lay crumble with oyster shell and a "flock block." The only other symptoms I have noticed are, I had one older hen go broody and suddenly all the older hens have stopped laying and have white feathers sprouting above their eyes in their dark brown feathers and the younger hens are around 5 months old and should be getting ready to start laying, but haven't yet (not even a fart egg!). IN addition, when I did incubate chicks only about 25% actually hatched. (2 hatches worth of 25 eggs each) The other 60% that were viable to lockdown died during lockdown. (The rest were infertile).I am not sure if any disease causes any of these issues, but I figured I would throw it out there. The 25% lived and are extremely healthy. No health issues from them have ever been seen in their 5 months of life.

 

My local Veterinarians have refused to look at the birds since they don't do "bird" procedures, so I would love to get some opinions from you lovely folks. Does this sound familiar to you from past experiences with Diametous Earth intolerance, CRD or Coryza or worm infestations? No diagnosis seems quite right to me, and I have never heard of anyone in my area with these problems and if their was a "carrier" bird in my original flock, why did none of the other pullets show signs? And I got all the chicks from feed stores which I would assume are from a NPIP program. It just seems crazy that I get my Bachelors in somethin gI love and suddenly have this happen. :p


Edited by Midnightpinto - 9/19/15 at 6:47pm
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My guess is that you are dealing with mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG or CRD.) MG and coryza are usually the ones that cause eye swelling. E. coli is a common secondary infection. Most respiratory infections make carriers of survivors and the rest of the clock whether symptomatic or not. DE may help prevent insects, but permethrin would be better to treat for lice or mites. You would do yourself a favor in diagnosis by getting one of your chickens tested or sacrifice one for a necropsy by the state vet. Respiratory diseases may occur with a secondary infection. Here is a link for the state vets:

http://www.usaha.org/Portals/6/StateAnimalHealthOfficials.pdf

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That's what I figured too. Crap. I was going to contact the UK diagnostics lab tomorrow, but I am not sure how to go about picking a bird :(

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Pick one with the worst symptoms, so that you can get some results. It's really tough dealing with something like this. Close your flock to any birds going in or out of your flock, and don't show any birds in the future. MG and mycoplasma on remain in the environment for 2-3 days. 

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Update: I had some birds tested and they came back with a diagnosis of Hepatitis, Nephritis, and Inflammation in the lungs.
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Sorry about your birds. Do you think it was from using the DE? Thank you for the follow up post. 

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So sorry for your birds, but what was the infection?  Do you have a diagnosis yet?  Mary

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