Sick Peacocks

I purchased 3 red golden pheasants a week ago and it looks like they have infected my peacocks.

I have 3 -6 week old white chicks with swollen eyes and runny beaks. The pheasants all have swollen eyes. These all share a common cage.

In the pen next to the babies I have 5 -12 week old peacocks. 3 are black shoulder and 2 are loud pied. All of the 12 week olds have runny clear liquid on their beaks and one seems to be sneezing.

I just treated all with 2tsp of aramyacin per 1 gallon of water per our local vets instructions. He is not too familiar with fowl and mostly treats large farm animals. He stated to double up on the aramyacin if they are not better in 4 days.

Should I treat with Tylan injections or give the aramyacin a few more days? All seem active and are eating well. I have looked locally for tylan and am not having any luck at Tractor Supply or Rural King. We are in Nashville IN

thanks in advance for the help.

Jeff

I'm not sure what to tell you, but 'deerman' on here is very knowledgeable and has lots of experience with Peafowl. I'm sure he wouldn't mind a PM from you. Another resource is www.peafowl.org, they have a forum with all kinds of great information about peafowl.

It sounds like Corzoa. Tylan would be the best treatment. Our tractor supply carries it all the time... humm. It's in the livestock section. Corzoa(if that is what they have) is very contagious and often appears in as little as three days from exposure. It is spread from them flinging their snotty noses and also drinking water. Put all sick birds in one area- way away from the others. Feed healthy birds before messing with the sick to avoid exposure to them. Wear differnt clothes each time. I would suggest getting Oxine AH,($21-25)a gallon, a very good disinfectant that you can mix with water and spray birds, spray yourself,cages, put in their water, do nasel flushes etc.. With Corzoa you will want to treat all infected birds with the tylan, and when they recover wait a few weeks and then dose all birdson property with the Corzoa vacine ($35+-) on Jeffers Livestock. Then you dose again 4 weeks later. Who ever is still showing symptoms are carriers and should be culled. Keep in mind the recovered birds could still spread the disease. I hope I am wrong, but it sounds like it may be. Another good med is Baytril, although pricey. Often you can only get it from a vet but you can buy a liquid form from allbirdproducts.com for $25 for 25mils. I give directly in the beak. Best Wishes

NCIndiaBlue,

Thanks for the quick reply. I PM'd Deerman. Hopefully he or some of the other members will have some advice. I've been a "lurker" for while on the forum and have gained a lot of good info on chickens and peafowl.

We have 25 acres of woods in a little town called Gnaw Bone just outside Nashville IN.

After a friend lost her farm a couple years ago, we ended up with 18 of her chickens and have been hooked ever since.

Jeff

No problem, ChickenZoo had a great answer! This is my first year having Peafowl, so I'm a newbie too, trying to learn from the pro's... Peafowl are my favorite.

Chickenzoo,

Geez, I hope it's not Corzoa. If it is that it means I can never sell any peachicks with fear of infecting someones flock. any particular thing I can look for to confirm Corzoa without a necropsy?

I'll look at Tractor Supply tomorrow for Tylan. I called this evening & the girl who answered the phone said they don't carry it.



Thanks for the info

Jeff

Hopefully it's something else. Both CRD & Corzoa are bad news. Corzoa often will have a bad smell when you sniff the nostrils of infected birds, but not always. Their eyes will often have bubbly appearance in the tear duct area, but also with CRD. Often one eye is most affected and will build up a white puss under the lid. Most reliable is unfortunately is a necropsy.

Honestly, I don't think I would take chances with that many birds. I would go straight for the Tylan!

I bought mine at Tractor Supply. I called several before I located it. In my opinion they are mostly younger people and don't have a clue what it is or where it is located. They all should carry it.

Yep, TSC normally has it, or they will order it for you. It is in the livestock section, labeled for cattle, get Tylan 50. 22gag needles are the smallest they carry, but if you know someplace to get a diabetic needle from, I like those best for the wee ones. It might take longer to get it in the syringe, but it's easier on them. i just got sent an email that one place has Oxine on sale for $21.+ a gallon, I'll have to find it.

Here is some more reading on it,MY CHICKEN HAS A COLD.... from Shagbarkbantams site:
They probably have one of any number of upper respiratory ailments, such as Infectious Coryza, Infectious Bronchitis, a CRD, or perhaps some other form of respiratory distress including bacterial, fungal, or viral infection. But chances are, they don’t have the Common Cold.

I’m going to concentrate on one of the possibilities, INFECTIOUS CORYZA, in this column since its incidence seems to be rising in numbers amongst the Fancier flocks.

Once thought of as a problem related to a particular region of the US (the Southeast), and to California, it is now evident that there are cases everywhere as a result of buying, selling and thereby shipping, birds all over. It only takes one new infected bird to cause widespread infection in an otherwise Coryza-free flock.

Coryza (previously known as things like a cold or roup) is caused by bacteria called Heamophilus paragallinarum, which primarily attacks the upper respiratory system, including the nasal passages. Swelling of the face, wheezing, sneezing, nasal discharge, conjunctivitis (including ‘bubbles’ at the corner of the eye), eyes glued shut, and open-mouth breathing are some of the more common symptoms. And they may appear singly or in various combinations. But the most telltale symptom is the unmistakable odor that is generated from the nasal discharge. Once you’ve smelled this odor, you’ll identify it every time. Additional symptoms unrelated to breathing can be a drop in production, reduction in fertility, diarrhea, and a decrease in water consumption. Although not as common, if rales are detected, then it is safe to assume that the lower respiratory tract is involved as well.

Coryza can be chronic in nature or acute, and youngsters tend to suffer from less severe cases than the adults. The acute cases are spread rapidly and death can occur within hours to days of the first symptoms. The incubation period is from 24 to 48 hours, which is considered relatively short. The chronic disease can last a lifetime in your flock, passing from one bird to the other until your entire flock has been exposed. Once a flock has been exposed to Coryza, survivors are considered reservoirs of infection (carriers), whether they had outward physical symptoms or not.

Coryza does not pass vertically to the egg. However, its transmission to the rest of the flock is widespread and thorough through a host of ways. One way is through contaminated drinking water. Once an infected bird drinks from a community drinking trough, it leaves behind the bacteria through its nasal discharge. Water also becomes contaminated by feces that end up in the water and also through the dust in the air that contains bacteria and settles into the water.

Another means of spreading is done through the feed source. The same rules apply here that I’ve mentioned about the drinking water.

Simple contact with other birds and the aerosol droplets of bacteria in the air caused by infected birds are also a common means of transmission of the disease.

You should not vaccinate against Coryza unless you know you already have it in your flock. Treatment is somewhat effective in chronic cases using a host of easily obtainable antibiotics. Erythromycin and oxytetracycline (Terramycin) are two listed in Veterinary texts. However, Coryza is also becoming somewhat resistant to some of these drugs and reinfection sometimes occurs after treatment is stopped. I understand that Baytril (enrofloxicin) is very effective against Coryza, but as most of you know, is difficult to get and expensive. However, if you build a good working relationship with your local Vet, he may be a source for the drug. Also, some poultry supply houses do sell the water-soluble liquid for poultry, if you look around.

I’d like to make a note here about injectables. It is my belief that in general, water-soluble antibiotics used to treat the drinking water are usually not as effective. The reason for this is because (especially in the case of Coryza), sick birds are usually off of feed and water anyway, and they’re the ones who need it the most. If you just can’t bear the thought of an injection, then consider using the drenching method to medicate. This would involve squirting the proper dose of medication right down the bird’s throat using a syringe without a needle.
H. paragallinarum (the Coryza-causing bacteria) is fragile and easily destroyed by disinfection. Prevention of the disease is relatively safe and easy with the use of a disinfectant such as Oxine. Fogging the coop on a routine preventive maintenance schedule and treating the community drinking water with 7 drops of Oxine per gallon of water would help discourage the incidence and spread of Coryza. (Oxine is EPA approved for the use in the drinking water of all poultry and livestock.) Although not mentioned often, I have found some reference to the possibility of air-borne introduction of the bacterium into the environment.

Unfortunately, many times in a case of Coryza, there exists a secondary issue of M. gallisepticum (MG), which can affect the outcome of recovery. Baytril is now being thought of in some circles as a virtual miracle cure for MG, and therefore, my treatment of choice. In theory, it would effectively eliminate both problems simultaneously.