Hello fellow chicken "flockherds"
Firstly i would like to say few necessary things. I had read every answer to this post "https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/best-way-to-kill-cats-yeah-i-think-the-cats-could-have-done-it.821047/" and to be honest i would like to inform you that i am not living in America. Laws in my country are very strict about killing such predator-pests, in some cases it s preferable to kill a human being for some reason.... casue killing a stray cat/dog would codemn you not only with quite enough years in prison but also, sometimes, even several dozens of thousands euro, money that you really need to work very hard for years to obtain it (minus the basic daily expenses, that means clear profit in order to pay the fine). I love cats, i even eat stray cats and please dont reply again for the animal rights etc, i feel you like all of us do. I am just trying to save you from some bother for such posts, for anyone that is intrested to do so.
So, in my case, i have a bobcat which not only have slayed several other stray cats (it s nature i know), but also several of my little chickens (about a dozen of them) and it s not the first time he tries that. Every couple of months, when i d get 20-30 of those precious featherballs for me and my family, i d lose some and i d put mouse traps arround etc, since i know from other places that i had been that mice and rats are chasing them as hell. Of course in this area, i knew for sure that we didnt have such issue, but ...anyway, long story short, i caught him few weeks earlier when i was passing by the coop, and he was running away full in blood and chickens actually slaughtered arround... the place was similar like the last times. Note that i am the only arround here with coop, free range chickens and the closer person with such coop is away enough, which btw i also asked for similar events and he denied it. I guess it s not near the bobcat's territory or place of interest in that matter.
After that event, i tried to get him - another note is that in my country there aren't that special agencies that you may call and TNR through ur problem,etc - with the cat cage-traps, well, with no sucess since i got other silly stray cats and he saw the trick... After few more failed attempts i started taking this to serious level, hence, i tried various way that are supposed to get rid of a cat, like broken glass, anti-freeze, rat mouse. All failed. In the first case, he ate wet food with glass for several days, where i heard that is the most effecient way to get rid of them.. .well i got tired after a few dinners and several broken glasses... so i tried anti-freeze. Well i can say he drank the served milk with a nice appetite... Also tried that for several days... Now this time i am trying with rat poison (red seeds). Again mixed with wet food. Rat poison is supposed to be 2ond generation poison that means that the "victim" doesnt have to get a lethal dose by one single meal like 1st generation rat poison, but it s supposed to get him at least several posioned in 2ond degree. I barely put 10gr in each time, which i know it s not that much , barely enough for a mouse or rat not that big, so given he is supposed to be several kilos and he gets at least 1 and a half to 2 teaspoons of the poison... So my question is this. Is he eventually going to get something from it? Or i am just spending more time/money? :/ Rat poison is defiathialone 0.0025%. Guys no joke, but after anti-freeze and sometimes after the rat poison, he gets horny after a couple of minutes where i am watching to make sure he got the bait, starting calling out for female cats...For christ's sake. I have tried everything but paraketamol. I wonder if it s gonna turn to be another myth with him. I guess i could hold a very much dose of it in wet food if i try it since it must be tasteless, right? But will it really that work for him? Human's medicine are supposed to be toxic with animals but he seems to be a special occasion. Also i know that mouses/rats can be resistant after a while in poison if they do not manage to die... So i wonder if it s gonna happen the same for him....
Once again, by killing him, i would do not only good for my property, but also the other stray cats which everyday i saw them in a bloodbath, faces scratched covered in blood, bitten ears and loads of abscesses, which already i was watching in front of me he was doing them (he has no fighting marks on him btw) but i never really cared about it, till he decided that bullying and killing other cats wasnt enough for him and he tried my chickens. Like i said, he was previously doing so, but only recently i saw it happened. So far i thought it was mice (in the past, in another location, i had a few pigeons that got raid from mices and only skeletons were found the very next day :/).
In the previous thread i read about antifreeze, rat poison and paraketamol solutions... So i wonder if there is anything else to try. Once again, please do not reply as there could be some other way and humane way since owing guns is forbidable method for me. I know some of u will think that taking him out will probably lead to another A-male bully, but trust me that wont be the case. And even if it would be, i would act the same as long as he d slaughter my precious chickens. Thanks a lot for your bother to read my essay and your answer.
Firstly i would like to say few necessary things. I had read every answer to this post "https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/best-way-to-kill-cats-yeah-i-think-the-cats-could-have-done-it.821047/" and to be honest i would like to inform you that i am not living in America. Laws in my country are very strict about killing such predator-pests, in some cases it s preferable to kill a human being for some reason.... casue killing a stray cat/dog would codemn you not only with quite enough years in prison but also, sometimes, even several dozens of thousands euro, money that you really need to work very hard for years to obtain it (minus the basic daily expenses, that means clear profit in order to pay the fine). I love cats, i even eat stray cats and please dont reply again for the animal rights etc, i feel you like all of us do. I am just trying to save you from some bother for such posts, for anyone that is intrested to do so.
So, in my case, i have a bobcat which not only have slayed several other stray cats (it s nature i know), but also several of my little chickens (about a dozen of them) and it s not the first time he tries that. Every couple of months, when i d get 20-30 of those precious featherballs for me and my family, i d lose some and i d put mouse traps arround etc, since i know from other places that i had been that mice and rats are chasing them as hell. Of course in this area, i knew for sure that we didnt have such issue, but ...anyway, long story short, i caught him few weeks earlier when i was passing by the coop, and he was running away full in blood and chickens actually slaughtered arround... the place was similar like the last times. Note that i am the only arround here with coop, free range chickens and the closer person with such coop is away enough, which btw i also asked for similar events and he denied it. I guess it s not near the bobcat's territory or place of interest in that matter.
After that event, i tried to get him - another note is that in my country there aren't that special agencies that you may call and TNR through ur problem,etc - with the cat cage-traps, well, with no sucess since i got other silly stray cats and he saw the trick... After few more failed attempts i started taking this to serious level, hence, i tried various way that are supposed to get rid of a cat, like broken glass, anti-freeze, rat mouse. All failed. In the first case, he ate wet food with glass for several days, where i heard that is the most effecient way to get rid of them.. .well i got tired after a few dinners and several broken glasses... so i tried anti-freeze. Well i can say he drank the served milk with a nice appetite... Also tried that for several days... Now this time i am trying with rat poison (red seeds). Again mixed with wet food. Rat poison is supposed to be 2ond generation poison that means that the "victim" doesnt have to get a lethal dose by one single meal like 1st generation rat poison, but it s supposed to get him at least several posioned in 2ond degree. I barely put 10gr in each time, which i know it s not that much , barely enough for a mouse or rat not that big, so given he is supposed to be several kilos and he gets at least 1 and a half to 2 teaspoons of the poison... So my question is this. Is he eventually going to get something from it? Or i am just spending more time/money? :/ Rat poison is defiathialone 0.0025%. Guys no joke, but after anti-freeze and sometimes after the rat poison, he gets horny after a couple of minutes where i am watching to make sure he got the bait, starting calling out for female cats...For christ's sake. I have tried everything but paraketamol. I wonder if it s gonna turn to be another myth with him. I guess i could hold a very much dose of it in wet food if i try it since it must be tasteless, right? But will it really that work for him? Human's medicine are supposed to be toxic with animals but he seems to be a special occasion. Also i know that mouses/rats can be resistant after a while in poison if they do not manage to die... So i wonder if it s gonna happen the same for him....
Once again, by killing him, i would do not only good for my property, but also the other stray cats which everyday i saw them in a bloodbath, faces scratched covered in blood, bitten ears and loads of abscesses, which already i was watching in front of me he was doing them (he has no fighting marks on him btw) but i never really cared about it, till he decided that bullying and killing other cats wasnt enough for him and he tried my chickens. Like i said, he was previously doing so, but only recently i saw it happened. So far i thought it was mice (in the past, in another location, i had a few pigeons that got raid from mices and only skeletons were found the very next day :/).
In the previous thread i read about antifreeze, rat poison and paraketamol solutions... So i wonder if there is anything else to try. Once again, please do not reply as there could be some other way and humane way since owing guns is forbidable method for me. I know some of u will think that taking him out will probably lead to another A-male bully, but trust me that wont be the case. And even if it would be, i would act the same as long as he d slaughter my precious chickens. Thanks a lot for your bother to read my essay and your answer.
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