International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Chooks man]

I saved this recipe in with my other gazillion notes from this thread. So the question is.. I have 1 hen and 1 cockerel along with the hatches I'm getting out of them. I am very lucky to have what I do, even if it is a rooster with bad legs and bad comb. Their type is great, coloring is decent. So, with what I have, is there a way I can create 2 separate lines just out of the original pair without bad inbreeding? I don't see how I could, but y'all are wizards so I bring the question to you.

it is hard to say now because it is early . we need to say they progeny first .how they turn up . plus the breeding coefficient will be very high after 3 generation .we can not start a line from just a true sibling we need to add some thing to it before it run into inbreeding depression .
you see when we mate a Father ( sire) Roo to his daughter the breeding coefficient is low because the pullets only share 50% of they genes with they sire the other 50% of they gene is from they mother hen .
when we mate a full sibling . they share a same genes 100% maybe is different combination but still the same that is a problem

we can start with a Roo and his daughters or a Hen with her son .
if it happen they are faultless than we don t need to add any thing to them in the future ,just selective breeding

chooks man

 

[bullets]

My cockerel is the one with X knees. If I line breed to him I'd be worried a it perpetuating the trait. I am currently using him tho.

 

[snowbird]

My cockerel is the one with X knees. If I line breed to him I'd be worried a it perpetuating the trait. I am currently using him tho.

I would try and find a new male if I were interested in breeding to the SOP. If you are only going for Eggs not a problem.

 

[OneMountainAcres]

I tried to get a few pictures today...they weren't cooperating lol

 

[Chooks man]

I tried to get a few pictures today...they weren't cooperating lol

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what a stunning BCM pair you got there .
the cockerel is sublime .need some more red on his shoulder and his copper is a little darker not a big deal when you have a cockerel with that body type .
love the type of the pullet and her hackle marking

chooks man

 

[Bantambird]

I attempted to video Handsome, but he's not letting me get a front view. He is still missing some tail, and I can see that his tail is angled higher than I'd like. Love his color, he's blue birchen/ blue silver.

 

[Chooks man]

I attempted to video Handsome, but he's not letting me get a front view. He is still missing some tail, and I can see that his tail is angled higher than I'd like. Love his color, he's blue birchen/ blue silver.

I like him a lot .
lovely body type .well short on his feet and chunky . the way they should be
still need to work on to purify the silver .
his tail look good to me not too high

chooks man

 

[OneMountainAcres]

what a stunning BCM pair you got there .
the cockerel is sublime .need some more red on his shoulder and his copper is a little darker not a big deal when you have a cockerel with that body type .
love the type of the pullet and her hackle marking

chooks man

Thank you! I wish I could've gotten a picture of the other pullet but I swear, she knows when I have the camera and goes in to hiding lol. She is sister to the pictured pullet. The cockerel is unrelated to the girls I can't wait for the girls to start laying so I can see their egg color and hopefully breed some great babies.

 

[dvoice]

I have culled that hen as a breeder due to her high tail, and wondered the same thing about her pale earlobes. I dont plan on using her for breeding, but that is a good question Im glad you asked that will help when selecting breeders and culling in the future.

So culls?

 

[Bantambird]

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So culls?

From my perspective, those look red, if you are referring to ear lobes. The hens have a very pleasing shape to my eye.
Dark eyes can be fixed by mating with appropriate cock, same with feathered shanks.