My Pet Chicken / Gabbard Farms Hatching Eggs BEWARE!!!

stefan333

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Nov 5, 2012
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I wish I did more research before buying hatching eggs from MPC, because I was not aware they came from Gabbard Farms. MPC has great reviews on live birds, because they don't come from Gabbard Farms, so don't hesitate to order those. I had an experience very similar to many angry backyarders. One person put it very simply, "Too many getting burned." Well, I got burned:

I orderred 24 assorted Orpington Hatching Eggs waiting almost 3 weeks past my ship date, the box smelled rotton, the eggs were ginormous, with rather large air cells (not fresh), the condition of the shells were poor, and the 4 Lavenders looked like they had already been incubating for a few days. But that's minor compared to what came next. I received 11 Blue, 7 Buff, 4 Lavender, and 2 Splash. It only took 1 day for them to arrive at my house from the time they shipped, so they weren't in transit long. I started incubating all of them regardless of how bad they looked. Well today is day 5, and only the Buffs are proceeding normally. That's when I decided to open up the shells and check. ALL 13 of the BLUE/SPLASH were not even fertile. I'm not talking about clear, I mean TRULY INFERTILE! The blastodiscs never had a run in with a Rooster. I could have saved myself a lot of money and just bought Buff Orpingtons, but then again the reason I bought this assortment was for the hopes of getting Black, Splash, and Blue.

I read these same exact complaints from others after I already had my eggs -same stuff in the old comments on Gabbard Farm's facebook page. When we buy shipping eggs we do gamble with the Post Office, but NOT with fertility. I'm not sure what is going on with Gabbard Farms or why MPC still deals with them. I have spent time defending other hatcheries on here, because I know chickens die, the Post Office can shake packages, etc. But when a hatchery has such a reputation for 0% hatch rates (but only on the rare breeds) something incompetent or dishonest is going on. Has anyone ever hatched a rare breed from Gabbard Farms? I could easily label an infertile egg with anything I wanted, cause it'll never hatch, so the customer would never know if it really was that rare Maran or more expensive Orpington. And then I could blame it on shipping, cause honestly, how many people know how to check for fertility, and if they do, do they have a good enough camera to take a detailed picture of the blastodisc to prove it? I read from someone how their rare egg actually did hatch as something else. Something just seems deceptive. I don't care how nice the owner appears to be, if they stink at the hatching egg business please don't buy from them -Capitalism at its best. Gabbard Farms has a lot of backyarders hard earned money in their pockets, and lets face it -they can easily get away with sending faulty eggs while blaming it on shipping.
 
That was quite possibly the most insulting reply I've ever received from a company. You apologize that I'm not happy, ignore the fact your company was deceptive, and then dismiss my anger by telling me how happy YOU would be to get all splash chickens? Is THAT the level of customer service you boast? Because YOU would be happy with splash, I should also be happy with splash? Thanks for completely ignoring my wishes and my complaint.

"Only selling the 'blue' chicks would be a potential waste of life."
Not true, and you contradict yourself by saying this. You yourself have stated "
I would love to get an order of 100% Splash" and I know you're not alone, so there is no waste of life here. I would get my blue and black, YOU would get your splash. I hope you realize by selling me all splash, they will ALL be culled (or if we choose to keep feeding a bird we consider to be useless to our flock's intention, they will be slaughtered for food.) You talk about a waste of life, yet you sent a whole flock of unwanted birds here to die, when all you had to do was open your eyes and say, "Yup, that's a splash, we better replace it with a blue or black one."

Also, to add insult to injury, now that the chickens are older, I'm stuck with a ROOSTER of another breed when I paid extra for all females. Once again, this proves that My Pet Chicken is NOT a company I will continue to do business with. Dishonest, unscrupulous, dismissive, and unwilling to own up to their mistakes.


My reply was in no way intended to insult you. I was speaking to my own preferences, and did not intend to discredit your concerns.

If your preference had been indicated on your order, in the 'Order Notes' section provided to our customers to table questions or concerns, we would have been able to clear up any confusion before your chicks shipped.

Please note however, it is indicated on our ordering page that this breed hatches BBS and your order will be a random selection of all color variations.

For your reference, here is a link to the ordering page and a snapshot of our disclaimer.

http://www.mypetchicken.com/catalog/Day-Old-Baby-Chicks/Blue-Ameraucana-p1227.aspx

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Since your requirements are so stringent, I would recommond finding a local breeder to meet your needs.

As for your rooster, My Pet Chicken has very generous policies and will refund your purchase price on any incorrectly sexed birds reported in the appropriate time frame.
You can view our 100% sexing guarantee here:
http://www.mypetchicken.com/about-our-company/policy/return-policy.aspx

If your order is still within the reporting period, I urge you to private message us with your order information so we can initiate a refund.

Alex
My Pet Chicken
 
I emailed them 6 days ago when I first got the eggs, then again today. No response back. My husband is eager to call them. They must be backed up with complaints.
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Guess I'll be finding out how they are as well. I placed an order with MPC for eggs. So sorry to here this ; (

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Commercial hatcheries do research on these things, and I find them to have the most accurate information, because you hear a lot of things on the forums that aren't correct. I've read on these forums many times that you can't tell once they start incubating, but that's not true. I did have one Buff that wasn't progressing, and when I analyzed it, it did have the white ring around it showing fertility -Very noticeably different than the true infertiles. When you do a breakout analysis of eggs that candle clear it's amazing what you can learn from them. When candling they all look the same, but when opening them up there are very noticable differences.

"Consider candling followed by egg analysis between day 7 - 10, as a more reliable means of measuring true fertility."
"By candling at days 7 - 10, it is possible to reliably discriminate between true infertility and early embryonic death for two reasons. Firstly, because embryonic membranes formed during the first days of incubation can still be recognized. Secondly, in clear eggs collected between days 7 - 10, a change in the color of yolk as a result of embryonic activity is clearly visible. The active young embryo transports water from albumen to yolk, which results in a whitish or light yellow ring around the embryo."

http://www.pasreform.com/academy/fr...blishing-true-fertility-in-hatching-eggs.html
 

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