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My elderly pea-loving neighbor came and got me today and mentioned his peahen was ill. I went over to see what was wrong and found her gagging and mouth breathing. Periodically she made a sound like a kid swallowing snot. (Sorry, I don't have another good way to describe it.) I didn't see what was wrong until the second time that he held her and I actually tried touching and pressing on her sinuses. Then it was pretty easy to spot:

Here you can see the "bump" in front of the left eye.



In the second photo, look at the difference between the left side and the right side... The left side has a bump on it that isn't there on the right side. The right sinus area is soft and a little concave. On the left, it is puffed up and swollen. There's even some mostly dried up discharge dripping from the left nostril. Inside the roof of the bird's mouth (no photo, sorry), it also looks brown and nasty.



In this next photo. you can see the discharge caked on the bird's upper beak -- all the tan colored coating on the beak and the bit hanging down -- appears to be dried nasal discharge (it's a dry climate here) * * * Edited to add -- if you look carefully at these first three photos, you can see that the left nostril is completely plugged with dry, caked on brown nasal discharge
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The hen can't move any air through that nostril with the gunk plugging it up like that * * *



Everything appears to be hunky-dory on the right side of the pea's face -- no swelling there.



When you look more closely, though, you can see the dried nasal discharge on that side too:



I must have washed my hands 5 or 6 times over there -- after every time we handled the bird, we both went and washed up. (I also changed clothes the second I got home, and sprayed my shoes with disinfectant!) The baby peas are now segregated from the hen and her mate. She got a dose of antibiotics before I left. Everybody's getting wormed too, since that hadn't happened in awhile, and could have contributed to lowering her resistance.

She's pretty sick -- but was still running around the pen and behaving semi-normally. The mouth-breathing, gagging, snot-swallowing noises and appearance of being short of breath at times were the clues that she was ailing. But it took actually getting hands on the pea, feeling the sinus area, peering in her mouth with a flashlight and looking for the nasal discharge before it was really obvious. That "huge" swelling in the photos isn't all that visible from even a few feet away.

The snot-swallowing noise, however, carries quite a distance
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I'm cautiously optimistic that we caught this in time
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[COLOR=333333]Here are some pictures of my first ever sinus infection. Chick weight - 800 grams. Gave 0.16ml of 10% Baytril IM.[/COLOR] [COLOR=333333]Here it is at 9 am:[/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333]Four hours later:[/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333]Here he is 8 hours later. Note that I have not wiped his face.[/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333]28 hours later - still some swelling that is hard to see in pictures and some clear drainage from nostril. Up five grams, which is not enough, but it's better than a loss.[/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333] [/COLOR] [COLOR=333333]Chick was 100% after just two shots, but gave two more per the recommendation of a vet.[/COLOR] [COLOR=333333]-Kathy[/COLOR]
@Kathy when you give the chicks this is it a liquid? Pill? Or shot? I have a hen with some sort of a sinus infection. I took her to a vet and she seemed very reluctant to give me any antibiotic at all. We have had her in vet Rx but she isn't drinking much? She seeems to be getting worse and I am desperate for an answer. Her eyes have the bubbly white film coming out of the eye I try to wipe and keep clean. She did give me a petroleum like based eye ointment for her eyes but the sloshing/slurping noise she makes when she shakes her head is getting worse. And she seems snotty? Any advice is GREATLY appreciated :) -Kris
The baytril I use is liquid, and it can be given by injection or orally. Call your vet back and ask them if they will sell you some Baytil. -Kathy
 
Here are some pictures of my first ever sinus infection. Chick weight - 800 grams. Gave 0.16ml of 10% Baytril IM.

Here it is at 9 am:


Four hours later:




Here he is 8 hours later. Note that I have not wiped his face.







28 hours later - still some swelling that is hard to see in pictures and some clear drainage from nostril. Up five grams, which is not enough, but it's better than a loss.




Chick was 100% after just two shots, but gave two more per the recommendation of a vet.

-Kathy
 
I forgot to mention that when trying to milk out the infection, (when it is soft), put your index finger inside the mouth behind the swelling and then use the thumb on the outside to push the infection out.

I read just this morning about how the finings in poultry crumbles and scratch grains, feather dander, and ambient dust will coat the sinus cavities and later in life cause 'Poultry Smut'. When stress is added to the bird secondary infections will manifiest itself in the sinus cavities.
 
I found a rooster with a nasty infected eye, but no other signs of respiratory infection, so I removed the pus as best as I could and set him free. Several days later the pus was back, so I did it again, but this time I was more aggressive and manged to get this out of his choanal slit:



Cause of sinus infection was the foxtail. To get it out I had to apply pressure to the area between his nostril and his eye.

This is a choanal slit - Photo by BYC's Nambroth
 
Poor dear. I have 2 silver pieds yearlings I have been treating with everything I have on hand. I called my local vet but he wants me to BRING them to him to see. Uhm... no. I asked for Baytril but he won't do it. Annoying when local vets won;t help. My farm vets are not sure what to do with peafowl and say they don't do exotics so they won't give me anything for them either.
Buy you own generic Baytri, just google enfloxil or enroxil. Make sure that what you buy is 10%, not 5%.

-Kathy
 
Garden Peas, if that swollen sinus is soft the infection can be pushed out the eye socket, The dried snot needs to be removed, the infection squeezed out and the eye rinsed with Vetrycin Eye Wash followed by a shot of antibiotics. Any infection in the roof of the mouth should also be cleaned out with a Q-Tip. An application of Vet RX to the nasal wouldn't hurt either. Suggest to the owner a deep dish for the peas to drink from, peas like to dip deeply, even up to the nasal when they drink and it helps clean the nasal out as well.
 
@ Garden Peas def. start of serious sinus issues, won't be long the eye will look horrible if something's not done, this IS where the eye issues start but most people don't pick up on that small swollen sinus first.
If observant enough folks can catch " sinusitis" starting there early on by that swelling in that area.
Had a friend who use a vet for this very thing ...they " lightly" lanced it ( used some kind of injection for pain first but not sure what ) and flushed it out very well with sterile saline then packed it with silver Silver sulfadiazine 1%. If you try this please make sure everything you use is clean and sterile !!

They then started the bird on a round of sulfa trimeth ( generic Bactrim ) ...can be got at Jeffers and other places.
I think it was about 1/4 pill 2x a day for about 10 days...cleared it right up.

http://www.jefferspet.com/products/sulfa-forte-capsules-60ct
 
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