Beekissed's Rooster Speak

By KikisGirls · Mar 9, 2018 · ·
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    I'm going to give you a clue on "rooster speak"....holding him down doesn't mean anything to him. If you'll watch how roosters interact between dominant ones and subordinate ones, there is rarely any, if ever, holding a bird down for a long time when there is an altercation. There is very quick flogging, gripping by the back of the head and flinging him away or getting him down and giving some savage pecking to the back of the head or neck. No holding him down and nothing else. That's a rooster on a hen maneuver, not rooster on rooster.

    Because your rooster is attacking you, you are the subordinate in this picture. You are getting dominated by your bird simply because you are walking where a subordinate isn't supposed to be walking when a dominant is in the area. What you never see is a dominant rooster getting attacked by a subordinate rooster unless there is going to be a definite shift in power, at which time the sub will challenge the dom and win...or lose. So far you are losing and not even challenging.

    If you want to win this battle, you must go on the offensive, not the defensive. He who attacks first, and is still claiming the area when the other guy leaves it, is the winner. Some people never have to go on the offensive because their movements in the coop are so decisive that they move and act like a dominant and a 2 ft. rooster is smart enough to recognize a dominant attitude and behavior...which is likely why he's never attacked your husband. Most men move more decisively than do women and children and they rarely step around a bird, but walk through them.

    Carrying him around also doesn't mean anything to him...it just doesn't translate at all. His environment is that coop and run floor and that's where you need to speak to him, in a language he understands. Because they are quick on their feet and can evade you, you need a training tool like a long, limber, supple rod of some kind...cutting a nice switch from a shrub or tree that will lengthen your reach by 5 ft. really helps in this. Don't use a rake or broom because they are too clumsy and stiff and can put the hurts on the guy when you don't really mean to.

    When you enter your coop, walk with decisive movements and walk directly towards your rooster. Move him away from the feeder and the rest of the flock and keep a slow, determined pressure on him until he leaves the coop. The stick will help you guide him. Then...wait patiently while he gets his bird mind around what just happened. He will try to come back in the coop...let him. When he gets a good bit into that coop, take your switch and give him a good smack on the fluffy feathers under his tail if you can aim it well. If you cannot, just smack the floor near him very hard and fast until he hops and runs and keep at it until he leaves the coop once again. Repeat this process until he is too wary to come back in the coop.

    Feed your hens. When he tries to come to the feeder, you "attack" him with the switch...smack the wall by the pop door just as he tries to enter. If he makes it inside, pursue him with the stick either smacking the floor or tapping him on the back or the head until he leaves in a hurry. Make him stay outside while you sit there and enjoy watching your hens eat. Use the stick to keep him from the flock..just him. Don't worry about the hens running and getting excited when this is happening...they will get over it. This is for the future of your flock and your management of it.

    When the hens have had a good tucker....leave the coop and let him come back in. Go out later and walk through that flock and use your legs to scatter birds if they get in your way...top roosters do not step to one side for any other bird in the flock. You shouldn't either. Take your stick and startle him with a smack on the floor next to him when he is least expecting it...make that bird jump and RUN. Make him so nervous around you that he is always looking over his shoulder and trying to get out of your way. THAT'S how he needs to be from now on in your lives together. Forget about pets or cuddles...this is a language and behavior he understands. You can hand feed him and such later...right now you need to establish that when you move, he moves...away. When you turn your back, he doesn't move towards you...ever.

    Then test him...take your stick along, move around in the coop, bend over with your back turned to him, feed, water, etc....but keep one eye on that rooster. If he even makes one tiny step in your direction or in your "zone", go on the attack and run him clear on out of the coop. Then keep him out while everyone else is eating.

    THAT'S how a dominant rooster treats a subordinate. They don't let them crow, mate or even eat in their space. If the subordinate knows his place and watches over his shoulder a lot, he may get to come and eat while the other rooster is at the feeder...but he doesn't ever relax if he knows what is good for him. At any given time the dominant will run him off of that feed and he knows it, so he eats with one eye toward the door. If he feels the need to crow, it's not usually where the dom can reach him...maybe across the yard.

    If your rooster crows while you are there, move towards him and keep on the pressure until he stops. He doesn't get to crow while you are there. He can crow later...not while you are there.

    It all sounds time consuming but it really isn't...shouldn't take more than minutes for each lesson and you can learn a lot as you go along. And it can be fun if you venture into it with the right attitude....this is rooster training that really works if you do it correctly. This can work on strange roosters, multiple roosters and even old roosters...they can all learn. You rule the coop...now act like it. Carrying is for babies...you have a full grown rooster on your hands, not a baby. [​IMG]

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    I think this article is a good guideline for people trying to manage an already aggressive cockerel/rooster, and for those who want to train them from the start.
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    "Exactly what I needed to get my rooster in line!"
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  3. rebel-rousing-at-night
    "So Good To Know!"
    5/5, 5 out of 5, reviewed Jul 20, 2018
    What a great article, Beekissed! I look forward to using your info to show my flock my position. Carrying a rooster around never made sense to me but your info really seems to "Speak" the language. Thanks :clap
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  1. DownByTheRiver
    i have taken this article to heart. But, I still have one rooster who's yet giving me trouble, "Bug-Eye". I have 15 chickens together in the coop. 9 wyandottes/EEs/blue copper marans pullets/hens (all the same age) and they are just about ready to start laying eggs and 7 blue copper marans roosters unfortunately (the 50/50 rule didn't seem to apply to my order of chicks). They recently have started ranging around the yard, and they do squabble among themselves over the hens a little. But in the last couple of days, Bug-Eye has tried to attack the wheelbarrow, the bucket, and me. The other roosters have learned that I'm #1, (Bug-Eye is #2), and don't give me any static. I definitely do exactly what the article describes. This morning, he tried attaching me when I didn't have the stick and wouldn't back down--not sure why. Ended up having to kick him a couple of times and he still wouldn't quit. I went after him, got him by the scruff of the neck and carried him around like a football for a while (he bit me several times during this). I'm almost ready to put him in the soup pot. Any ideas? Will this settle down over time--maybe he's just got the raging hormones and will grow out of it?
  2. Little Meadow Big Sky
    At what age would you begin this training. My little flock is 10 weeks old and we did end up with one cockerel. He has just started to crow, (just a few times at this point so it remains seriously cute), and he does chase a few of the girls off the feed dish but there is plenty left for them after the herd has had their fill. Prior to him beginning to chase them off, the more dominant girls chased off the lower ranking ones. Having just switched to FF, I've begun to put a second small dish out so the lower ranking girls don't have to wait. Is that an OK thing to do?

    Ques 2: Is he never allowed at the feed dish until the girls are done, or is this just until he learns some manners?

    Thanks.
  3. tjo804
    Great info!
    Rooster whispering for Everyone, not just dummies!

    Thank you for sharing your wisdom:bow
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  4. alexa009
    5 stars!:thumbsup I will need to use this helpful information if I ever have a sudden problem with my roo!
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  5. Reno
    I tell my wife this everyday and she still doesn't get it . My 2 yr. old granddaughter has it down pat. She walks right through him to collect the eggs and shows him no fear. My rooster doesn't bother her one bit.
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  6. webbysmeme
    Thank you for this! I'm headed out the door now to see if mine's any nicer today. I am scared, but he won't know it.
    KH, new to all this.
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  7. Chickygirl63
    This makes a lot of sense... Why he attacks my husband and I... Why the other rooster won't crow unless he goes into the woods... And yes I do carry my leaf rake. I have pushed him ahead of me a little faster then a walk... only when I Carry it around does he not mess with me..when I don't have it and the girls come up to me for treats..then he gets mean....he is a two year old Barr rock..
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  8. Eryniel
    As I just got a rooster, this is perfectly timed! Thank you! I'll be sure to start implementing it right away.
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    1. KikisGirls
      Great! I didn't write it so I can't take credit, but I am super glad you find it helpful.
      Good luck!
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