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  1. CityChicker

    Harlequin runners

    Hello My Dear! What a lovely surprise. I decided to check out the site because I am slowly getting back to thinking about the birds (long story, but life has been really rough the last 5-6 years especially). It's just been too hard mentally to be here with some of what's been going on, but I'm...
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    Snowy Mallard vs. Mini-Silver Appleyard or Silver Bantamn

    They are essentially almost identical. They are the same color genotype, harlequin phase dusky (Holderread finally agrees with this genotype in his new edition and describes the Mini Appleyard as the same genotype as Snowy). They are also almost identical in size. The Mini Appleyard is...
  3. CityChicker

    trout or grey color difference

    Hey Guys, I hope you're all well. I try to check out the board every now and then for color questions, but have been sick for several months and getting ready to have yet another surgery. It's nice to see people posting about the Grays and Trouts. I bought out several of the last of the...
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    New Call Duck Colors... what do you think?

    LOL, one of these days duckluck! I have been so snowed under lately I don't even have time to keep up with emails, so the book will have to wait until I have some down time. Thank you for the encouragement though! It is nice to know that some people here do appreciate the advice and the time...
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    New Call Duck Colors... what do you think?

    ...and sex-linked Brown dilution (E/E, Bl/Bl, d/d) Lilac = Extended Black plus single Blue dilution and sex-linked Brown dilution (E/E, Bl/bl, d/d) *My thoughts on Lilac anyway. As you can see, the colors are all closely related being in the same series. The variations in these colors are just...
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    Another - What's His Breed? thread

    He definitely looks like a Runner mix to me or just a production quality Runner. As far as the color and genetics, I definitely agree with Kansas Kid and Omni Silkies. Most of the other crosses mentioned would be very improbable unless he is a second (or beyond) generation mix (meaning his...
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    Bantam Duck Page

    ...Restricted Mallard and wild-type look very similar in the adult plumage, just with the restricted Mallard having some areas of excess white. ***As a side note, when I use "Appleyard" in the context of Calls, I am using it rather loosely because most of them I have seen have actually just...
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    Bantam Duck Page

    Duckluck- Sorry for the late reply... yes, I have thought of maybe doing a book or booklet. I just have not taken the time to seriously pursue it. Maybe some day! MrsTurbo- The reason you sometimes get Apricot Silver in a line of Butterscotch would be because some of the breeder birds must...
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    Bantam Duck Page

    Quote: Anyone, anyone??? Where's Turbo? I need to know what's gonna hatch out of this egg? If it has half the personality of it's mother, it's gonna be a keeper! It depends on a couple different factors, but probably all Gray or Gray Pied. It depends on whether or not your Gray Pied is...
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    Anyone familiar with Abacot Rangers a.k.a. Streicher? Pics?

    I don't think they have ever been imported into the United States as "Abacot Rangers" or "Streichers", but they are virtually the same genotype as our Silver Welsh Harlequins.
  11. CityChicker

    Bantam Ducks?

    Wow, this is an old thread! We breed most of the bantam ducks here (Silver bantams, Mallards, Overbergs, Aussies, etc..). On average depending on the breed, they range from slightly above Call size to about a third the size of full size ducks (the birds themselves). Egg size can vary quite a...
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    Bantam Duck Page

    ...alleles obscures the eye-stripes. That is the most obvious difference that is easy to identify right off the bat. Hens of dusky based colors will *never* have eye-stripes and drakes will not while in eclipse plumage (I just mention eclipse plumage because in nuptial plumage, the dusky and...
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    Bantam Duck Page

    Quote: NO! Whatever you do, don't do that! LOL. The US Miniature Silver Appleyards, including from Holderread's, are the Snowy color/genotype- harlequin phase dusky. That is why in Europe they call them the Silver bantam. They are not at all the same color as the large fowl Silver...
  14. CityChicker

    Pastel Rouen Purity? Updated with Pictures

    Yes, no, and not exactly. The brief explanation as I am heading out right now is... No, none of the genes mentioned are sex-linked. The only sex-linked genes for feather color in the Mallard derived breeds are Buff dilution and Brown dilution. We use m+ or m+/m+ basically as "shorthand"...
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    Pastel Rouen Purity? Updated with Pictures

    Quote: Not exactly. Blue dilution is incompletely dominant, so if a bird carries it, it will always show in its' outward appearance (phenotype). You need two copies of the Blue dilution though to create Pastel, one from each parent. That would be impossible unless both parents carried Blue...
  16. CityChicker

    anyone know anything about Aleution Pied Call ducks**pics added

    Hi Ross (and others)! I will have to post a little bit later tomorrow when I have more time. I haven't been able to be online much lately and keep up with the genetics conversations. The short answer though is that Aleutian is basically the Spot color. I think Holderread even has said that...
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    Pastel Rouen Purity? Updated with Pictures

    Quote: Your best bet is probably going to be to study the genetics involved and learn the basics of genetics. That will help a lot. It is almost required when you are trying to get a color variety going that is not common. Also, pictures would indeed help a lot, as there can be subtle...
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    anyone know anything about Aleution Pied Call ducks**pics added

    I am guessing you are talking about Josh Snyder? I know Josh. He is a very nice guy and extremely knowledgeable on the genetics of duck colors, probably even more than myself. He has been a great help to me at times including helping me gain a better understanding of the Aussie Spot and...
  19. CityChicker

    Show Ducks

    I agree with duckluck. If you definitely want a good chance for getting show quality birds, I would research the breed you are interested in and go through a private breeder. If you just want really good quality at a decent price, I would go with Holderread's. Of course, I have seen some...
  20. CityChicker

    Indian Runners

    Quote: I LOVE white runners, I am ordering white and Emery from Holderreads this year coming. Darn, your ducks are nice. Fowlman- Gorgeous Whites! I love the White Runners. I wish they were more popular. They are always a popular color for shows, but I don't think a lot of people keep...
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