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  1. lesliedow

    Review by 'lesliedow' in article 'Chicken Math 101 – with Quiz!'

    Perfect, except for one TINY thing.... The intuition statement followed by the student statement.. "it is intuitively obvious that..." "The exercise will be left to the student..." but of course it will because CHICKEN MATH 🥳🥳🥳
  2. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    You have an agenda. I choose not to engage.
  3. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    One more thing. They do tend to lag behind the bleeding edge of technology however.
  4. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    And the FDA is pretty good about working with the industry to find good ways. They tend do not do things that the industry does not support.
  5. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    Farmers do not represent consumers, the FDA does.
  6. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    No don't let the name fool you, actually the warning letters could and often do end up with the company being shut down. 438s result in a lot of work and expense and you still may end up with the company being shut down. These are potentially millions of dollars in fines and expenses. It's very bad.
  7. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    You are completely off the point here. We are talking about food safety.
  8. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    It is a matter of degrees and I agree that the speed by which you can force modifications via selection is different from that done via cloning of traits in most cases--but actually not all. Some selection is very fast. However, the direct exchange of genetic material happens all the time in...
  9. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    EUA is within the law and the guidelines--which you. just stated as did I. I did say it was risk-based as all actions by the agency are. My argument is not all or nothing it is to respect what the agency provides us--which is food and medical safety that is best in the world and the best it has...
  10. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    Not referriong to hybrids, I am referring to selection for specific traits.
  11. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    You are welcome. Apologies if I came across as harsh. You should also look into Roundup (glyphosate). Honestly, millions would be dead now due to starvation of this was not available. And I am aware of the WHO position and the recent court judgements but they are not backed up by the literature...
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    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    We have been altering the genetics via breeding since the first hunter-gathers decided to plant crops. Your broccoli does not look anything like it did before humans decided to modify the genetics. Same for your chickens and cows and everything.
  13. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    Nothing is every completely perfect. You have to a cost/benefit analysis. After assessing, having the FDA is far better than not having it. Far better. We actually did not suspend anything for the virus, a risk-based approach, which is what the agency uses anyway, was used. The concerns on...
  14. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    You are incorrect. That is exactly what this is. I suggest you read some of the 438 and warning letters from the FDA to bad actors and see for yourself. https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/compliance-actions-and-activities/warning-letters...
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    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    @Weeg Organic is a marketing term. Are you aware that hydroponic plants cannot be labeled organic even if they meet the legal requirements of trace amounts of pesticides? It's because this is a marketing term and often does not have a lot to do with anything else. GMO has been around since man...
  16. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    Great, then go back to before the FDA was put into place and live then. Your life expectancy would drop significantly as would your animals'.
  17. lesliedow

    GMO soy and corn in chicken feed? Discussion

    Actually Cancer rates are not skyrocketing at all. And also "Cancer" is a cluster of diseases not a single one. So when you talk about Cancer rates you have to be specific. GMOs are not causing cancer. And the "whole food" producers are not cancer researchers. This whole discussion is pretty...
  18. lesliedow

    Illinois...

    Gah, do I even want to know what the hatcheries do? 😱 I'm going to give them a couple of months. they are not harassing the hens yet. Once that happens, it's to the freezer with them.
  19. lesliedow

    Illinois...

    One more question. I love to hatch so end up with extra roos. Other than posting to the local Facebook groups (I have done that), is there a good place to offer extra roos? I have a Ameracuana and a Frizzled EE now that I am trying to rehome. Oh and I can send them to freezer camp. I am not...
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    Illinois...

    Hmmm, guess I need to add a couple of production hens to the flock. What are the ones that are laying best for you?
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