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Then I would have proper crele birds. The salmon chest now still has some vague lacing, which it shouldn't have.

Next year these go in the same pen as their father. Aim is to improve the type, to create e+/e+ pullets and to breed out the Pg gene. Hopefully that will result in more beautiful birds.

The result about 15 weeks later...

This is how they have turned out.

Chicks are almost 3 weeks now. Hoping to see a clear barring pattern soon.

So, apart from a wyandotte bantam crele project, I have also started another little project. (For some reason I like colours that have not been recognized by our national federation yet...) I put a wyandotte buff barred or lemon cuckoo rooster (is there a difference?) with a buff wyandotte...

More pictures of the female chicks at 5 weeks. The males have started to get a lot of black in the breast.

That's true. All chicks are e+/eb, but the fenotypes look different.

So, these are the chicks I believe to be hens at 4 weeks. Is it turning out alright? Are these the salmon coloured breasts typical of the e+ type?

So, it would be a good idea to add her to the flock? She would produce 100% e+/e+ chicks (if my rooster is also e+/e+) and I would have a 50% chance for real crele. What would the other 50%, crele with one dose of dominant white, look like? Any pics of "white crele"?

Here is the entire hen. I didn't have a picture last night, and it was a bit too dark to take one...

Meanwhile, I got hold of a pile wyandotte bantam. She has a salmon breast, and I was told she is e+/e+. I was thinking of using her in the crele project too, knowing I only have a 25% chance of having a non-white hen.

nicalandia, that is why I asked about the chicks being on e+ or not. I bought the rooster abroad, hoping he would breed true.

This is the father: He should be e+/e+, which I really hope he turns out to be. I am trying to breed wyandotte bantams in his colour. This colour is rare, probably even unseen in wyandottes in my country. I imported him. Since there are no hens available and wyandottes in the wild type colour...

In this picture they were only a day old.

e+/eb is what I had expected myself. The mothers would be eb then and the father e+.

Can anyone just by looking at the colour of my chicks determine what gene they are on? How sure can I be that this is the wildtype e+ colour?

Cyprus, thanks for your reply and the advice. Could you explain why a buff laced rooster is better than a gold laced one? In theory, there's no difference, is there? So why then?

Hello, what do you breeders think is the best way to breed buff laced wyandotte bantams? Here in Belgium it is a colour that is unfortunately getting rarer. Take into account that I only have space for one small flock, let's say 1 × 4 or so. 1. A mixed flock gold laced x buff laced Result...