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  1. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Or, maybe the chickens weren't there because they died.... and the people didn't clean up very well. Back to square one, this is like the "never ending story" and not in a good way.
  2. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    This is disturbing on multiple levels... Why are they able to sell chickens in a quarantine zone (first). Second, how were they able to remove them before the CDFA came??? (were they pre-warned of the visit by someone with "inside knowledge"?) Third, how did they find VND if there was...
  3. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Well, it all just seems kind of strange... They are saying it was a "routine biosecurity check"? Why did this feed store have birds for sale in a quarantine area??? You can't sell birds without moving them! They are located right in the middle of what could be called ground zero! But no one...
  4. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    I like to believe that everyone here feels that way. However, implicated in this epidemic were those already involved in illegal activities such as cock-fighting. It is unlikely that their moral standards would stand that test (and haven't and won't in the future). Almost all of the positive...
  5. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Contrary to your statement, I am not a rabid supporter of SOB. However, they did bring public notice to the problem and the videos created did document the cruel, inhumane and disrespectful treatment of people and their birds by undertrained workers with no apparent clear concept of proper...
  6. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    I have to point out that it is hard to both hide birds AND create a spectacle, since the two are necessarily incompatible. All spectacles to date have been created courtesy of undertrained CDFA workers and those backyard poultry owners complying with CDFA protocols. To my knowledge, no one on...
  7. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Hard to say, really. I note that it is now hot and there is a slow-down in the disease spread/outbreaks. Again, we need research and studies done to find better ways of dealing with this and other viruses as well. That is where funding should go in the future IMO. I have to wonder where we...
  8. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Citrus greening is a little "off topic" here, but progress is being made in that area, thanks to some people able to think "outside the box" (which is what needs to happen for VND as well). I'll refer you to this article... https://agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov/2013/aug/citrus Here in...
  9. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    I have to reiterate my suggestion that grant money should be found and expended on research of better ways to deal with mutating viruses... Before it is too late...
  10. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Common vaccination protocols in the United States for commercial poultry operations The domestic poultry industry is not mandated to provide vaccinations against specific pathogens by any governing body; thus, each producer can determine what vaccines they would like to administer. This is...
  11. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Here is a quote about vaccines, from "A Review of Virulent Newcastles Disease in the United States" The mass inoculation strategy of live (sometimes attenuated) vaccines has resulted in concern about the potential for reversion to virulence of attenuated strains or the leaching of these strains...
  12. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Gee, where have you been? We have covered the whole vaccine subject on this thread and why no one in the states uses them and why they don't work, multiple times... This virus easily mutates around vaccines so they don't work, birds vaccinated still get the disease because they work poorly...
  13. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Sing their praises all you like, the fact remains it was handled very poorly. How many birds would still be alive if they had acted at the first outbreak instead of waiting for funding for 6 months? The disease is not eradicated and is still lurking out there. Those who think we won't be...
  14. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    I think she is responsible TO the CDFA, as they most likely hired her. The CDFA is a large bureaucracy with many departments concerning agriculture. Animals are just one division of it. All part of "big government". 9 most terrifying words in the English language? "I'm from the government...
  15. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Here is a link to an article about the nature of viruses... I found it interesting, discusses whether or not they are "alive"... I think the answer winds up being technically not... but sort of... https://askabiologist.asu.edu/questions/are-viruses-alive
  16. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Very true! That AND a lawsuit...
  17. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Don't know where you are located, but if buying a house, stay away from areas that have a lot of commercial poultry operations and or cockfighting "exhibition birds", if you can. I would look for a house that doesn't have much around it in an area not densely populated. Perhaps you don't live...
  18. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    Yes, she apparently has poultry in the Hesperia area (high desert, San Bernardino County). It is part of the quarantined area and there have been cases up there. She just firmly believes that judging the efforts of the USDA/CDFA (or lack thereof) and Annette Jones is hampering the efforts to...
  19. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    In Mexico, where VND is endemic and routinely morphs into new, more virulent strains that are resistant to vaccines, it is unlikely that anyone reports the disease. If no one reports the disease, at least in the technical sense, there is "no problema", and this is the front that the world sees...
  20. BreanneRN

    LOS ANGELES county CA under bird quarantine :(

    You can pretty much see, however, why the vaccines for this disease are not popular here in the states. Any vaccinated bird will produce a positive result with any test used. At least if the vaccine was good and did what it was supposed to do. In Mexico, vaccines are widely used, as well as...
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