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  1. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    @marchick sending you a PM
  2. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    I can't say anything about the feet, but the eyes will change color as they mature.
  3. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    That dark male looks from these photos to have way too level a back. Their back should be sloped down from head to tail. Type should come before color.
  4. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    Well that is not normal for a Marans. Perhaps they are pulling each other's feathers out. That happens a lot. I have 3 Rhode Island Red cockerels right now with no tails because the Ameraucanas that are in the same pen have pulled all their feathers.
  5. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    Are they molting right now?
  6. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    Tail angle is a critical part of the type of a Marans so it is hard to evaluate them until their tails grow in.
  7. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    This bird does not look like a pure Black Copper Marans, he/she looks like a mixed breed, possibly mixed with Ameraucana. I can't tell for the photo very well, does it have a straight comb or a pea comb? Get a close up of the comb and post. If still looks "pullet-ish" but usually you don't see...
  8. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    Would be nice if it was that easy. Unfortunately, to tell if breeder quality, you need to wait a minimum of 6 months, sometimes closer to a year. Now if they aren't breeder quality, the poor traits that tell you that may show sooner. It takes patience to wait for birds to mature.
  9. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    Before the breed was admitted to the APA, people would refer to them as French Black Copper Marans to denote they had the feathered legs, as opposed to the British birds, which call for clean legs. Now that they are in the APA SOP and feathered legs has been adopted for our standard, they really...
  10. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    All these BYC threads and chicken FB groups are just enablers
  11. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    I know it's hard to let go. That's why I have so many birds. That, and my freezers are getting full I got a Bev Davis Blue Copper cockerel this year that came from a really dark egg. He was mixed up in a group of Black Copper chicks that a friend bought. I hope to use him over some of my hens...
  12. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    Now that there are real "Blue" Marans, it gets confusing when people say they have Blue Marans---because sometimes people just leave out the copper part, but they really meant to say "Blue Copper Marans". OK, that said, if you want to breed Blue or Blue Copper, you should keep them separate from...
  13. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    Don't do it. If you use one with a carnation comb, you will be asking for trouble, especially if you are thinking of back-breeding a son.
  14. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    If one or more of the black cockerels have good type--especially nice tail set--what you could do is hang on to a couple of them. Breed your super copper colored one to your hens, which should help with the color of their offspring. Using the overcolored male will likely produce sons with too...
  15. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    No, that is too dark, it should be bay. But he looks young and their eye color will change as they mature. If it's still dark when he's 6-8 months old, then worry about it.
  16. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    Thank you, I work really hard to improve them.
  17. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    This is the only one I'm on https://www.facebook.com/groups/1449982951937845/ it is called Marans Fanciers. I see people posting photos for advice, some straight forward advice even if advice is 'cull'; it is not a selling group. There's at least one APA judge who is a member. Bev Davis is a...
  18. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    I believe many have gravitated over to Facebook. I see Wheaten breeders over there on the Marans Fanciers group.
  19. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    That's not lacing, that's just excess coloration in the breast, and no, you don't want that. Ideally IMO, you want a solid black breast although the standard allows for "a few copper spots" but that is way more than a few and he will probably develop more breast coloration as he matures.
  20. desertmarcy

    Black Copper Marans discussion thread

    You want the tail low at this age. The tails tend to rise as they age. Too high a tail or squirrel tails are rampant in this breed, so if it is low now, that is a good thing
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