Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[Pipe Dreaming]

It looks to me like both of my boys have shafting. What do you guys think?
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[desertmarcy]

Well I tried to get a couple pics of another roo today.

I am wondering about the color on this one. I think it is really nice to look at but not sure if it is okay, he is very dark red as opposed to a copper color. I will post pics of him from each side and one of him next to another roo to show the contrast between their two colors.


Snowbird, I would love your take on my more recent posts with pics of my LP roo and hens!

That dark male looks from these photos to have way too level a back. Their back should be sloped down from head to tail. Type should come before color.

 

[FeelsRightFarm]

That dark male looks from these photos to have way too level a back. Their back should be sloped down from head to tail. Type should come before color.

Thank you!Yeah he is a bit of an odd shape, we had ruled him out previously but I started doubting when I realized the color on my others weren't quite right. So itd be better to keep a male with shafting vs one with better coloration but a poor body type?

Thank you for giving your input!

 

[Pipe Dreaming]

More on shafting.. I have this mix breed hen and I noticed her quills are more of what typical shafting is? Can someone confirm that this is shafting? Sorry to post another bird other than a BCM, just want clarification on this trait.

 

[cvamoca]

Yup, that's shafting.
And also mossiness/smuttiness.
The mossiness part would be where her back is- there's the shaft down the middle of the feather, and then there's what appears to be "trying to be" penciling, but it's messy, and speckled. You will see this in mixed breeds or mixed varieties that were derived from a penciled bird.

 

[cvamoca]

It looks to me like both of my boys have shafting. What do you guys think?
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Number 1 has the least, but he's trying to have lacing. However--if they have good type- type is more important than colour at this point- I'd breed them, and see what their pullets are like. And by that I mean-- see how the eggs are.

To me- Marans are meant to have VERY dark eggs- I don't call my cuckoos "Marans" because they have proven to produce paler eggs--although they came from good dark eggs they did not reproduce this trait, so I think it was perhaps the breeding roosters fault. I hatched from shipped eggs many years ago, but have kept a few in my mixed flock.

 

[chickengr]

Number 1 has the least, but he's trying to have lacing. However--if they have good type- type is more important than colour at this point- I'd breed them, and see what their pullets are like. And by that I mean-- see how the eggs are.

To me- Marans are meant to have VERY dark eggs- I don't call my cuckoos "Marans" because they have proven to produce paler eggs--although they came from good dark eggs they did not reproduce this trait, so I think it was perhaps the breeding roosters fault. I hatched from shipped eggs many years ago, but have kept a few in my mixed flock.

is lacing ok for marans?

 

[snowbird]

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These male do not have anything that resembles Lacing, Do not worry about lacing here.

 

[Localheronow]

You are so right Don the sop allowes for some spotting in the chest.this is the French standard most breeders here in the usa breed for a all black chest. I thought we all where breeding for the French standard?

 

[doubleleft]

It looks to me like both of my boys have shafting. What do you guys think? #1 #2

Number 1 has the least, but he's trying to have lacing. However--if they have good type- type is more important than colour at this point- I'd breed them, and see what their pullets are like. And by that I mean-- see how the eggs are. To me- Marans are meant to have VERY dark eggs- I don't call my cuckoos "Marans" because they have proven to produce paler eggs--although they came from good dark eggs they did not reproduce this trait, so I think it was perhaps the breeding roosters fault. I hatched from shipped eggs many years ago, but have kept a few in my mixed flock.

These male do not have anything that resembles Lacing, Do not worry about lacing here.

Just for clarification 'Shafting and Lacing are two completely different things' . (Pipe Dreaming) There is no lacing but there is plenty of shafting on this cock bird .