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yep Chris, I see what you were saying now, they are very nice birds! Congrats on them

Quote: Thats how I say it too, thats how it looks anyway knowing that in Japanese the "i"s are pronounced like "ey" That's how the breeders have pronounced it to me

Quote: well you found the best and pretty much only source for the true ohiki in the US. Toni-Marie has some beautiful birds on there doesnt she!

yes, F1 will be, you can breed the feather leg out eventually though. But yes, you are right, they will never be true ohiki, that's why I said that to start with, they will be similar in "type" to them, and a cheap fake version for those who cant find or afford the real one is all. Do not...

yes and yes Very fun to work with these things. I have a lot of phoenix bantams, all her lines, to die for... There are many breeds used in longtail breeding to help this or that out, you just have to be good at genetics to make the right choices. Many use dutch in color projects on most...

Quote: Havent tried it myself, but I think it's best to run the phoenix males to cochin hens if I remember what was said on the subject. Then breed back to the phoenix to improve the tail and all, but you have to be selective to keep the short leg quality of the cochin, other wise you'll just...

Quote: Just pmed you about them

Real ones are extremely rare and very hard to find. If you cant find any, you can make your own, they wont be the true one, but do look very similar Bred cochins to phoenix, just dont sell them as true ohiki