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Ahhh - I understand. The "hybrid/mutt" post was in reference to posts about creating something OTHER than a Rhodebar - autosexing, though - on what *thought* was a thread about a pure breed. Two separate posts - not intended to be connected. I can see why there would be hostility...

I never said we shouldn't. Did someone else? All I have been saying is that you can't cross a Rhodebar x RIR cross back to a Rhodebar and then call it a purebred Rhodebar. Simple genetics - and really obvious when you see the difference in chick colors at hatch. How is this being...

What, precisely, gives you the impression that I am "uninformed"? If you believe that a chick from breeding anything back to just *one* of the breeds it originally came from is a purebred, then you are the one woefully uninformed. I never called ANYONE a hybrid mutt - just the birds. Either...

James, I, too, admire Greenfire for the work they have done. Which is why I really cannot believe that they are intentionally producing green-egg-layers and calling them Rhodebars. When you say "their Rhodebars are almost all" - do you mean the ones you have? Or are you referring to others...

??? You highlighted things I wrote and said "so much wrong" - you still haven't explained. Did I say it was not possible to recreate the breed? No. Why are you being mean?

Hmmm, I really disagree here. The Legbar is not simple a barred Leghorn, the Cambar is not simply a barred Campine. In order to remain true to TYPE, outcrossing is important, but there is still a difference between auto-sexing and a breed. Others have different opinions - and that's fine...

Please explain?

At the risk of coming off really cranky (just replied to Jeremy), I really do want to understand why folks are posting *here* about hybrid mutts. Please don't misunderstand - I'm as much a Dr. Frankenstein as the rest and have my own little projects all the time; however, this is the RHODEBAR...

Jeremy, yes - they are autosexing, I said as much - that isn't the point, is it? They aren't "pure" Rhodebar - but you wouldn't be able to tell, would you? That's what frustrates me - people getting a bird, outcrossing it, and selling the F1's as purebred. The autosexing feature is just a...

Jumping in: I have been looking through this and other threads and am a bit bothered by this assumption that, because someone did it before, Rhodebars are little more than a hybrid and it would be easy to recreate them. Sigh. People, just about everything started as a cross, certainly...