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  1. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Tell me about "crazy" ... Half my retirement goes to pay the real estate taxes (property goes down to the beach, where the house is also located, and then there is about 6 acres up the slope for the orchards, gardens, and pastures/woods. Then 25 % or so for feed/power, and the rest for poor...
  2. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    No, I agree with Walt Leonard. I also checked the angle and, in my figuring, the tail is right around 50 degrees or just a tad lower. What is especially impressive to me is that the rise starts at the bottom of the neck in a gradual, elegant sweep to the tail. Personally, I have NEVER seen a...
  3. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Walt, comparing the description of, e.g., the Leghorn and the Barnevelder as concerns tail and back, according to my recollection, the description for the Leghorn is more specific. Case in point, the Barnevelder standard says nothing about the tail spread and feather width, which would be a...
  4. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Barnie breeders should pay particular attention to the overall shape/outline of this pullet...look at that back line! The SOP needs to address this in better detail...The most recent issue of the German "Gefluegel" magazine has a superb article on the Barnies with excellent pictures. Most of...
  5. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    You have beautiful birds, and I don't think that cockerel is too dark. He has a super balance, I love to see beautiful birds on this site. Thank you all for posting,
  6. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Ladies and Gentlemen: Things are getting curiouser and curiouser! Aspects of any chicken breed are many, and the Barnevelder does not represent an exception in that regard. As in most cases, the idea of "purity" can sometimes be far-fetched. I know for a fact, for instance, that several "famous"...
  7. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Marek's Disease manifests itself pretty early on, and then continues past the point of lay. Barnevelders are especially susceptible to Marek's. My first experience was when I lost about 50 (my very first batch) to Marek's, and not a single one survived. Only the Single Comb White Leghorns had...
  8. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Trisha, I am really impressed with what you are accomplishing. In my opinion, the hen does not carry her tail too high; frequently, one sees Barnevelders carrying their tails too low, which detracts from that elegant back line sweep (IMO) they are supposed to have. Perhaps an APA judge could...
  9. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Trisha, I am really impressed with what you are accomplishing. In my opinion, the hen does not carry her tail too high; frequently, one sees Barnevelders carrying their tails too low, which detracts from that elegant back line sweep (IMO) they are supposed to have. Perhaps an APA judge could...
  10. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Andy, I think those are nice birds, and if you have a brown/black double laced cockbird with superior lacing (or whose mother had it) to go with them, you should be able to produce some good ones. Do you have any splash laced pullets as well? Those could also come in handy. I like the...
  11. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    LOL. I thought you WERE Trishia. I I KNOW she has done a tremendous job and deserves all the praise and encouragement in the world. Not very good at keeping track of who's who. Anyway, my statements still stand. (It's not easy when one is getting old and forgetful... I apologize.) Bjorn
  12. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    I would definitely use him in the breeding program, but in a stud mating situation with a hen with good wing carriage I would also mate that hen to one of the other cockerels so that you have a way of evaluating the impact of the wing carriage. Your impressive strides in your breeding program...
  13. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    I think he looks great except I think he carries his wings very low--or is it the photo angle that makes it looks that way?
  14. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    This discussion has taken a curious turn, indeed. I doubt whether most of the Barnevelders in any country, including The Netherlands, Germany, UK, USA, Canada, etc. is of "high" quality, whatever that is supposed to mean exactly. If we're talking about a grade of v or hv in the German...
  15. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    I like that splash cockerel even if there are some obvious issues (loose feathering, overly large wattles, wing carriage a bit low) that you already pointed out, and perhaps also the fact that he seems a bit long in the back with a tail set that is a bit low. I would nonetheless keep him for a...
  16. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Oh well...I thought the lacing suggested this is a pullet, but hard to tell from these two photos. Fascinating project. Good luck!
  17. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Sadly, sudden deaths are not unheard of in the chicken flock. With Barnevelders, however, I always suspect Marek's, and some birds may make it through their first year and then fall victims to it, even when vaccinated. One poultry vet told me that they may have to be revaccinated in order to...
  18. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Walt, I agree. Most judges here in the US are helpful and are willing to listen (Malone, Thompson, the late Cooke and Sorensen among others), but there are a few who don't. One might conclude that people are people, and they come in all kinds or varieties, both in Australia and the US or...
  19. Dr Bjorn Netland

    Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

    Walt, Thank you for letting me know that Ken passed away recently. As his health and communicative ability deteriorated, it was not possible to have a meaningful exchange over the telephone, so I had not contacted him for quite some time. He was always a most gracious and considerate person...
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