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The pathologist I have worked with is Dr. Shivaprasad. Maybe your vet could send him an email, or call him. I have spoken with him many times and he's always been very helpful. He works out of the Tulare lab. http://www.cahfs.ucdavis.edu/services/lab_locations.cfm . How are your babies doing?

Forgot to mention, *all* of my necropsied birds had the liver lesions, and one of my chickens had them, too, but that necropsy was done by me. Chicken also had a necrotic, ulcerated ceca.

Okay, so is peritonitis is a secondary infection?

Well that's what I thought... I was just trying to understand how a bird could be in the "advanced stages" without a secondary infection, because all of the necropsy reports I have seen have had serious secondary infections, like septicemia and systemic fungal "insert fungus here" infections...

I've been told that fecals are not reliable and that false negatives are quite common. On the other hand, I've been told that sometimes fecals can detect blackhead, the same way they can for coccidiosis.

Okay, I'm confused. How does blackhead actually kill a bird? Is a septic infection due to necrotic ceca considered to be a secondary bacterial infection?

My four that died didn't have that smell, but three that the feed store lost to coccidiosis did have a very foul smelling poop.

Nice looking Palace! About your photos, they remind of of the photos that I used to see the 80's Arab Horse World magazines.

I just add them to my bookmarks.

How are your peas today?

This link has some good info on Baytril. https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/medicine-chart/baytril-for-birds

PeaDaddy, Baytril is a great antibiotic, but there are risks associated with it. Talk to your vet about the possibility of acquiring fungal infections and any other problems known to occur with Baytril.

This is a link that a fellow BYC member found for me. I have found it to be very helpful: http://www.scribd.com/doc/72234998/Plumb-s-Veterinary-Drug-Handbook-Sixth-Edition

That makes sense then. My Metronidazole is 50mg/ml and my Baytril is 100mg/ml.

What strengths are they? How many mg per ml? FYI, the first "avian" vet that I saw had not seen peafowl or turkeys and prescribed too low a dose of metronidazole and the wrong wormer. I went back to the same office a few days later and a different vet changed wormer and increased the...

Well said...